TECHNICAL FIELD
[0001] The invention of the present disclosure relates to a damper device having an input
               element to which torque from an engine is transmitted and an output element.
 
            BACKGROUND ART
[0002] Conventionally, as a damper device of this type, a double path damper used in conjunction
               with a torque converter has been known (see Patent Document 1, for example). In this
               damper device, a vibration path from an engine and a lockup clutch to an output hub
               is divided into two parallel vibration paths B and C, and these two vibration paths
               B and C each have a pair of springs and an intermediate flange disposed between the
               pair of springs. The turbine of the torque converter is coupled to the intermediate
               flange of the vibration path B so as to make natural frequencies of the two vibration
               paths different, and the natural frequency of the intermediate flange of the vibration
               path B is lower than the natural frequency of the intermediate flange of the vibration
               path C. In this damper device, when the lockup clutch is engaged, vibrations from
               the engine enter the two vibration paths B and C of the damper device. When engine
               vibrations having a certain frequency reach the vibration path B including the intermediate
               flange coupled to the turbine, the phase of vibrations from the intermediate flange
               of the vibration path B to the output hub shifts 180° with respect to the phase of
               input vibrations. At this time, because the natural frequency of the intermediate
               flange of the vibration path C is higher than the natural frequency of the intermediate
               flange of the vibration path B, vibrations entering the vibration path C are transmitted
               to the output hub without a phase shift (without being out of phase). In this manner,
               by producing a 180° shift between the phase of vibrations transmitted from the vibration
               path B to the output hub and the phase of vibrations transmitted from the vibration
               path C to the output hub, vibrations in the output hub can be damped.
 
            [Related-art Document]
[Patent Document]
            SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION
[0004] In order to improve the vibration damping performance of the double path damper described
               in Patent Document 1, it is necessary to adjust the spring constants of elastic bodies
               on both sides of each intermediate flange and the weight of each of the intermediate
               flanges to suitably set the natural frequencies of the vibration paths B and C. However,
               adjusting the spring constants of the elastic bodies to optimize the natural frequencies
               of the vibration paths B and C may cause significant variations in the stiffness of
               the entire double path damper. Furthermore, adjusting the weights of the intermediate
               flanges and the turbine joined thereto to optimize two natural frequencies may increase
               the weights of the flanges and the turbine, and consequently increase the weight of
               the entire torque converter. Thus, in the double path damper, it is not easy to suitably
               set the natural frequencies of the vibration paths B and C so as to improve vibration
               damping performance. Depending on the frequency of vibrations to be damped, there
               are cases where the vibration cannot be satisfactorily damped even by the damper device
               described in Patent Document 1.
 
            [0005] In view of this, a main object of the invention of the present disclosure is to provide
               a damper device having a higher vibration damping performance.
 
            [0006] The damper device of the present disclosure is a damper device having an input element
               to which torque from an engine is transmitted and an output element. The damper device
               includes: a first intermediate element; a second intermediate element; a first elastic
               body that transmits torque between the input element and the first intermediate element;
               a second elastic body that transmits torque between the first intermediate element
               and the output element; a third elastic body that transmits torque between the input
               element and the second intermediate element; a fourth elastic body that transmits
               torque between the second intermediate element and the output element; and a fifth
               elastic body that transmits torque between the first intermediate element and the
               second intermediate element.
 
            [0007] In this damper device, under conditions in which all the first to fifth elastic bodies
               are allowed to deform, two natural frequencies can be set in the entire device. Researches
               and analyses conducted by the inventors have revealed that the natural frequency of
               the damper device including the first to fifth elastic bodies decreases as the stiffness
               of the fifth elastic body decreases, and that a change in equivalent stiffness of
               the damper device with respect to a change in stiffness of the fifth elastic body
               is significantly smaller than changes in the equivalent stiffness with respect to
               changes in stiffnesses of the first to fourth elastic bodies. Thus, in this damper
               device, by adjusting the stiffness of the fifth elastic body, it is possible to suitably
               set two natural frequencies of the entire device while suitably maintaining the equivalent
               stiffness of the damper device and preventing the weights (moments of inertia) of
               the first and second intermediate elements from increasing. Consequently, in this
               damper device, the vibration damping performance can be satisfactorily improved.
 
            BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE DRAWINGS
[0008] 
               
               [FIG. 1] FIG. 1 is a schematic configuration diagram illustrating a starting device
                  including a damper device of the present disclosure.
               [FIG. 2] FIG. 2 is a sectional view illustrating the starting device in FIG. 1.
               [FIG. 3] FIG. 3 is a front view illustrating components of the damper device of the
                  present disclosure.
               [FIG. 4] FIG. 4 is a perspective view illustrating components of the damper device
                  of the present disclosure.
               [FIG. 5] FIG. 5 is a perspective view illustrating components of the damper device
                  of the present disclosure.
               [FIG. 6] FIG. 6 is a schematic diagram illustrating torque transfer paths in the damper
                  device of the present disclosure.
               [FIG. 7] FIG. 7 is an explanatory graph illustrating a relation between the rotational
                  speed of an engine and theoretical torque fluctuations in an output element of the
                  damper device.
               [FIG. 8] FIG. 8 is an explanatory graph illustrating relations of the natural frequency
                  on a low rotational-speed side, the frequency at an antiresonance point, and the equivalent
                  stiffness of the damper device with respect to the stiffness of a first elastic body
                  in the damper device of the present disclosure.
               [FIG. 9] FIG. 9 is an explanatory graph illustrating relations of the natural frequency
                  on the low rotational-speed side, the frequency at the antiresonance point, and the
                  equivalent stiffness of the damper device with respect to the stiffness of a second
                  elastic body in the damper device of the present disclosure.
               [FIG. 10] FIG. 10 is an explanatory graph illustrating relations of the natural frequency
                  on the low rotational-speed side, the frequency at the antiresonance point, and the
                  equivalent stiffness of the damper device with respect to the stiffness of a third
                  elastic body in the damper device of the present disclosure.
               [FIG. 11] FIG. 11 is an explanatory graph illustrating relations of the natural frequency
                  on the low rotational-speed side, the frequency at the antiresonance point, and the
                  equivalent stiffness of the damper device with respect to the stiffness of a fourth
                  elastic body in the damper device of the present disclosure.
               [FIG. 12] FIG. 12 is an explanatory graph illustrating relations of the natural frequency
                  on the low rotational-speed side, the frequency at the antiresonance point, and the
                  equivalent stiffness of the damper device with respect to the stiffness of a fifth
                  elastic body in the damper device of the present disclosure.
               [FIG. 13] FIG. 13 is an explanatory graph illustrating relations of the natural frequency
                  on the low rotational-speed side, the frequency at the antiresonance point, and the
                  equivalent stiffness of the damper device with respect to the moment of inertia of
                  a first intermediate element in the damper device of the present disclosure.
               [FIG. 14] FIG. 14 is an explanatory graph illustrating a relation between the rotational
                  speed of the engine and the phase difference between vibrations transmitted from the
                  second elastic body to the output element and vibrations transmitted from the fourth
                  elastic body to the output element.
               [FIG. 15] FIG. 15 is an explanatory graph illustrating a relation among torque sharing
                  rates of elastic bodies and the vibration damping performance in the damper device
                  of the present disclosure.
               [FIG. 16] FIG. 16 is an explanatory graph illustrating a relation between the rotational
                  speed of the engine and torque fluctuations in the output element of the damper device
                  in consideration of hysteresis.
 
            MODES FOR CARRYING OUT THE INVENTION
[0009] The following describes modes for carrying out the invention of the present disclosure
               with reference to the drawings.
 
            [0010] FIG. 1 is a schematic configuration diagram illustrating a starting device 1 including
               a damper device 10 of the present disclosure, and FIG. 2 is a sectional view illustrating
               the starting device 1. The starting device 1 depicted in these drawings is a device
               mounted on a vehicle including an engine (internal combustion engine in the present
               embodiment) EG as a motor. In addition to the damper device 10, the starting device
               1 includes a front cover 3 coupled to a crankshaft of the engine EG, a pump impeller
               (input-side fluid transmitting element) 4 fixed to the front cover 3, a turbine runner
               (output-side fluid transmitting element) 5 that is rotatable coaxially with the pump
               impeller 4, a damper hub 7 as a power output member fixed to an input shaft IS of
               a transmission (power transmitting apparatus) TM that is coupled to the damper device
               10 and is an automatic transmission (AT), continuously variable transmission (CVT),
               a dual clutch transmission (DCT), a hybrid transmission, or a speed reducer, and a
               lockup clutch 8.
 
            [0011] In the following description, the term "axial direction" basically means, unless
               otherwise specified, an extending direction of a central axis (axis) of the starting
               device 1 or the damper device 10. The term "radial direction" basically means, unless
               otherwise specified, a radial direction of the starting device 1, the damper device
               10, or a rotating element such as the damper device 10, that is, an extending direction
               of a straight line extending from a central axis of the starting device 1 or the damper
               device 10 in a direction orthogonal to the central axis (in a radial direction). Furthermore,
               the term "circumferential direction" basically means, unless otherwise specified,
               a circumferential direction of the starting device 1, the damper device 10, or a rotating
               element such as the damper device 10, that is, a direction along the rotation direction
               of the rotating element.
 
            [0012] The pump impeller 4 has a pump shell 40 that is tightly fixed to the front cover
               3 and a plurality of pump blades 41 arranged on the inner surface of the pump shell
               40 as depicted in FIG. 2. The turbine runner 5 has a turbine shell 50 and a plurality
               of turbine blades 51 arranged on the inner surface of the turbine shell 50 as depicted
               in FIG. 2. The inner periphery of the turbine shell 50 is fixed to the turbine hub
               52 via a plurality of rivets. The turbine hub 52 is rotatably supported by the damper
               hub 7, and movement of the turbine hub 52 (turbine runner 5) in the axial direction
               of the starting device 1 is restricted by the damper hub 7 and a snap ring mounted
               on the damper hub 7.
 
            [0013] The pump impeller 4 and the turbine runner 5 face each other, and between these,
               a stator 6 configured to adjust a flow of hydraulic oil (hydraulic fluid) from the
               turbine runner 5 to the pump impeller 4 is disposed coaxially therewith. The stator
               6 has a plurality of stator blades 60, and the rotation direction of the stator 6
               is set in only one direction by a one-way clutch 61. The pump impeller 4, the turbine
               runner 5, and the stator 6 form a torus (annular flow path) through which the hydraulic
               oil is circulated, and function as a torque converter (fluid transmission apparatus)
               having a torque amplifying function. Note that, in the starting device 1, the pump
               impeller 4 and the turbine runner 5 may be configured to function as a fluid coupling
               by omitting the stator 6 and the one-way clutch 61.
 
            [0014] The lockup clutch 8 performs lockup to couple the front cover 3 to the damper hub
               7 via the damper device 10 and also releases the lockup. In the present embodiment,
               the lockup clutch 8 is structured as a single-plate hydraulic clutch, and has a lockup
               piston (power input member) 80 that is disposed inward of the front cover 3 and near
               the inner wall surface of the front cover 3 on the engine EG side and that is fitted
               to the damper hub 7 so as to be movable in the axial direction. On a surface of the
               lockup piston 80 which is on the outer peripheral side and on the front cover 3 side,
               a friction material 81 is stuck as depicted in FIG. 2. Furthermore, between the lockup
               piston 80 and the front cover 3, a lockup chamber (engagement oil chamber) 85 is defined
               that is connected to a hydraulic control apparatus (not depicted) via a hydraulic-oil
               supply path or a path formed in the input shaft IS.
 
            [0015] Into the lockup chamber 85, hydraulic oil can flow that is supplied radially outward
               by the hydraulic control apparatus from the axis side (near the one-way clutch 61)
               of the pump impeller 4 and the turbine runner 5 to the pump impeller 4 and the turbine
               runner 5 (torus) via the oil path formed in the input shaft IS, for example. Thus,
               when the pressure in a fluid transmission chamber 9 defined by the front cover 3 and
               the pump shell of the pump impeller 4 and the pressure in the lockup chamber 85 are
               maintained equal, the lockup piston 80 does not move toward the front cover 3, so
               that the lockup piston 80 is not frictionally engaged with the front cover 3. In contrast,
               when the pressure in the lockup chamber 85 is reduced by the hydraulic control apparatus
               (not depicted), the lockup piston 80 is moved by the resulting pressure difference
               toward the front cover 3, and is frictionally engaged with the front cover 3. Accordingly,
               the front cover 3 (engine EG) is coupled to the damper hub 7 via the lockup piston
               80 and the damper device 10. Herein, as the lockup clutch 8, a multi-plate hydraulic
               clutch including at least one friction engagement plate (a plurality of friction materials)
               may be used. In this case, the clutch drum or the clutch hub of the multi-plate hydraulic
               clutch functions as a power input member.
 
            [0016] The damper device 10 is a device that damps vibration between the engine EG and the
               transmission TM, and includes, as shown in FIG. 1, a drive member (input element)
               11, a first intermediate member (first intermediate element) 12, a second intermediate
               member (second intermediate element) 14, and a driven member (output element) 16 as
               rotating elements (rotating members, i.e., rotating mass bodies) that relatively rotate
               about the same axis. The damper device 10 further includes, as torque-transmitting
               elements (torque-transmitting elastic bodies), a plurality of (e.g., two in the present
               embodiment) first outer springs (first elastic body) SP11 disposed between the drive
               member 11 and the first intermediate member 12 to transmit rotational torque (torque
               in a rotation direction), a plurality of (e.g., two in the present embodiment) second
               outer springs (second elastic body) SP12 disposed between the first intermediate member
               12 and the driven member 16 to transmit rotational torque (torque in a rotation direction),
               a plurality of (e.g., three in the present embodiment) first inner springs (third
               elastic body) SP21 disposed between the drive member 11 and the second intermediate
               member 14 to transmit rotational torque, a plurality of (e.g., three in the present
               embodiment) second inner springs (fourth elastic body) SP22 disposed between the second
               intermediate member 14 and the driven member 16 to transmit rotational torque, and
               a plurality of (e.g., two in the present embodiment) intermediate springs (fifth elastic
               body) SPm disposed between the first intermediate member 12 and the second intermediate
               member 14 to transmit rotational torque.
 
            [0017] In the present embodiment, as the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12, the
               first and second inner springs SP21 and SP22, and the intermediate springs SPm, straight
               coil springs are used, each made of a metal material that is spirally wound so as
               to have an axis extending straight when no load is applied. This type of coil springs
               allows the springs SP11 to SPm to extend and contract along the axes more suitably
               than in the case of using arcuate coil springs, thereby enabling reduction in hysteresis
               caused by friction force generated between the springs transmitting torque and rotating
               elements, that is, the difference between output torque when torque input to the drive
               member 11 increases and output torque when torque input to the drive member 11 decreases.
               The hysteresis can be quantified by subtraction between torque that is output from
               the driven member 16 when the torsional angle of the damper device 10 reaches a predetermined
               angle during an increase of torque input to the drive member 11 and torque that is
               output from the driven member 16 when the torsional angle of the damper device 10
               reaches the predetermined angle during a decrease of torque input to the drive member
               11. Herein, at least one of the springs SP11 to SPm may be an arcuate coil spring.
 
            [0018] In the present embodiment, as depicted in FIG. 3, the first outer springs SP11, the
               second outer springs SP12, and the intermediate springs SPm are aligned in the order
               of SP 11, SP12, SPm, SP 11, SP12, and SPm, for example, along the circumferential
               direction of the damper device 10 (first intermediate member 12), and are arranged
               in an outer peripheral region in the fluid transmission chamber 9 so as to be positioned
               close to the outer periphery of the starting device 1. In this manner, the intermediate
               springs SPm are disposed so as to be aligned with the first and second outer springs
               SP11 and SP12 on the outer peripheral side along the circumferential direction, whereby
               strokes of the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 and the intermediate springs
               SPm can be suitably secured. Furthermore, as depicted in FIG. 3, each first inner
               spring SP21 is paired with a second inner spring SP22 (acts in series). The first
               and second inner springs SP21 and SP22 are arranged radially inward of the first and
               second outer springs SP11 and SP12 and the intermediate springs SPm so as to be alternately
               aligned along the circumferential direction of the damper device 10 (second intermediate
               member 14), and are surrounded by the springs SP11, SP12, and SPm.
 
            [0019] In the present embodiment, when the stiffness, i.e., the spring constant, of the
               first outer springs SP11 is "k
11", the stiffness, i.e., the spring constant, of the second outer springs SP12 is "k
12", the stiffness, i.e., the spring constant, of the first inner springs SP21 is "k
21", and the stiffness, i.e., the spring constant, of the second inner springs SP22
               is "k
22", the spring constants k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 are selected so as to satisfy k
11≠k
21 and k
11/k
21≠k
12/k
22. More specifically, the spring constants k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 satisfy the relations of k
11/k
21<k
12/k
22 and k
11<k
12<k
22<k
21. Furthermore, when the stiffness, i.e., the spring constant, of the intermediate
               springs SPm is "k
m", the spring constants k
11, k
12, k
21, k
22, and k
m satisfy the relation of k
11<k
m<k
12<k
22<k
21.
 
            [0020] As depicted in FIG. 2, the drive member 11 of the damper device 10 includes an annular
               first plate member (first input member) 111 that is fixed to the lockup piston 80
               of the lockup clutch 8, an annular second plate member (second input member) 112 that
               is rotatably supported (aligned) by the damper hub 7 and is coupled to the first plate
               member 111 so as to rotate integrally therewith, and an annular third plate member
               (third input member) 113 that is disposed to be positioned closer to the turbine runner
               5 than the second plate member 112 and is coupled (fixed) to the second plate member
               112 by a plurality of rivets 123. Accordingly, the drive member 11, i.e., the first,
               second, and third plate members 111, 112, and 113, rotates integrally with the lockup
               piston 80, and engagement of the lockup clutch 8 couples the front cover 3 (engine
               EG) to the drive member 11 of the damper device 10.
 
            [0021] As depicted in FIGS. 2 and 4, the first plate member 111 has an annular fixed portion
               111a that is fixed to an inner surface (surface to which the friction material 81
               is not stuck) of the lockup piston 80 on the outer peripheral side via a plurality
               of rivets, a short cylindrical portion 111b that is extended from the outer periphery
               of the fixed portion 111a in the axial direction, a plurality of (e.g., four in the
               present embodiment) spring contact portions (first contact portions) 111c that are
               extended radially outward from a free end of the cylindrical portion 111b at intervals
               (evenly spaced) in the circumferential direction and extend in the axial direction
               so as to be spaced apart from the fixed portion 111a, and a plurality of (e.g., 12
               in the present embodiment) engaging protrusions 111e that are extended from the free
               end of the cylindrical portion 111b in the axial direction at intervals in the circumferential
               direction. As depicted in FIG. 2, the lockup piston 80 to which the first plate member
               111 is fixed is rotatably supported by a cylindrical first support portion 71 formed
               on the damper hub 7.
 
            [0022] The second plate member 112, structured as a plate-like annular member, is disposed
               so as to be positioned closer to the lockup piston 80 than the third plate member
               113, and is rotatably supported by a cylindrical second support portion 72 formed
               on the damper hub 7. As depicted in FIG. 2, the second support portion 72 of the damper
               hub 7 is formed by being shifted from the first support portion 71 in the axial direction
               of the damper device 10 so as to be positioned closer to the turbine runner 5 than
               the first support portion 71. The second support portion 72 has an outer diameter
               that is larger than that of the first support portion 71, and is provided radially
               outward of the first support portion 71.
 
            [0023] The second plate member 112 has a plurality of (e.g., three in the present embodiment)
               spring-accommodating slots 112w (see FIGS. 3 and 4) that each extend in a circular
               arc shape and are aligned at intervals (evenly spaced) in the circumferential direction,
               a plurality of (e.g., three in the present embodiment) spring support portions 112a
               that each extend along the inner periphery of the corresponding spring-accommodating
               slot 112w and are aligned at intervals (evenly spaced) in the circumferential direction,
               a plurality of (e.g., three in the present embodiment) spring support portions 112b
               that each extend along the outer periphery of the corresponding spring-accommodating
               slot 112w and are aligned at intervals (evenly spaced) in the circumferential direction
               so as to face the corresponding spring support portion 112a in the radial direction
               of second plate member 112, and a plurality of (e.g., three in the present embodiment)
               spring contact portions (second contact portions) 112c. The spring contact portions
               112c of the second plate member 112 are provided one by one between the spring-accommodating
               slots 112w (spring support portions 112a and 112b) that are adjacent each other along
               the circumferential direction. Furthermore, on the outer periphery of the second plate
               member 112, a plurality of (e.g., 12 in the present embodiment) engaging recesses
               112e are formed at intervals in the circumferential direction. Into the engaging recesses
               112e, the respective engaging protrusions 111e of the first plate member 111 are fitted
               with play in the radial direction. Fitting the engaging protrusions 111e into the
               engaging recesses 112e enables the first and second plate members 111 and 112 to relatively
               move in the radial direction.
 
            [0024] The third plate member 113 is also structured as a plate-like annular member. The
               third plate member 113 has a plurality of (e.g., three in the present embodiment)
               spring-accommodating slots that each extend in a circular arc shape and are arranged
               at intervals (evenly spaced) in the circumferential direction, a plurality of (e.g.,
               three in the present embodiment) spring support portions 113a that each extend along
               the inner periphery of the corresponding spring-accommodating slot and are aligned
               at intervals (evenly spaced) in the circumferential direction, a plurality of (e.g.,
               three in the present embodiment) spring support portions 113b that each extend along
               the outer periphery of the corresponding spring-accommodating slot and are aligned
               at intervals (evenly spaced) in the circumferential direction so as to face the corresponding
               spring support portion 113a in the radial direction of the third plate member 113,
               and a plurality of (e.g., three in the present embodiment) spring contact portions
               (third contact portions) 113c. The spring contact portions 113c of the third plate
               member 113 are provided one by one between the spring support portions 113a and 113b
               (spring-accommodating slots) that are adjacent each other along the circumferential
               direction.
 
            [0025] The first intermediate member 12 includes an elastic-body support member 121 and
               a coupling member 122 as depicted in FIG. 2. The elastic-body support member 121 is
               annularly formed so as to support (guide) outer peripheral portions of the first and
               second outer springs SP11 and SP12, side portions thereof (side portions at the right
               in FIG. 2) on the lockup piston 80 side (engine EG side), and outer-peripheral side
               portions thereof on the turbine runner 5 side (transmission TM side). The elastic-body
               support member 121 is rotatably supported (aligned) by the cylindrical portion 111b
               of the first plate member 111 of the drive member 11, and is disposed in an outer
               peripheral region in the fluid transmission chamber 9. Disposing the first intermediate
               member 12 in the outer peripheral region in the fluid transmission chamber 9 in this
               manner enables the moment of inertia of the first intermediate member 12 to be increased.
               The elastic-body support member 121 has a plurality of (e.g., two at an interval of
               180° in the present embodiment) spring contact portions 121c arranged at intervals
               in the circumferential direction. The spring contact portions 121c are each extended
               from a side portion of the elastic-body support member 121 on the lockup piston 80
               side toward the turbine runner 5 in the axial direction.
 
            [0026] The coupling member 122 constituting the first intermediate member 12 has an annular
               fixed portion 122a that is fixed to the turbine shell 50 of the turbine runner 5 by
               welding, for example, a plurality of (e.g., two at an interval of 180° in the present
               embodiment) first spring contact portions 122c that are extended in the axial direction
               from the outer periphery of the fixed portion 122a at intervals in the circumferential
               direction, a plurality of (e.g., four in the present embodiment) second spring contact
               portions 122d that are extended in the axial direction from between the first spring
               contact portions 122c at the outer periphery of the fixed portion 122a, and a short
               cylindrical support portion 122s that is extended in the axial direction from the
               inner periphery of the fixed portion 122a toward the same side as the first and second
               spring contact portions 122c and 122d. The second spring contact portions 122d of
               the coupling member 122 are formed symmetrically about the axis of the coupling member
               122 so that two of them (a pair) are positioned close to each other (see FIG. 3),
               and two second spring contact portions 122d in each pair oppose each other at an interval
               corresponding to the natural length of the intermediate springs SPm, for example.
 
            [0027] The second intermediate member 14 has an annular supported portion 14a, a plurality
               of (e.g., three at an interval of 120° in the present embodiment) first spring contact
               portions 14c that are extended in the axial direction from the inner periphery of
               the supported portion 14a at intervals in the circumferential direction, and a plurality
               of (e.g., four in the present embodiment) second spring contact portions 14d that
               are extended in the axial direction from the outer periphery of the supported portion
               14a toward the same side as the first spring contact portions 14c. The second spring
               contact portions 14d of the second intermediate member 14 are formed symmetrically
               about the axis of the second intermediate member 14 so that two of them (a pair) are
               positioned close to each other (see FIG. 3), and two second spring contact portions
               14d in each pair oppose each other at an interval corresponding to the natural length
               of the intermediate spring SPm, for example.
 
            [0028] As depicted in FIG. 2, the second intermediate member 14 is disposed so that the
               supported portion 14a is positioned between the third plate member 113 of the drive
               member 11 and the turbine runner 5 in the axial direction, and is rotatably supported
               by the coupling member 122 of the first intermediate member 12 fixed to the turbine
               runner 5. In the present embodiment, a recess into which the support portion 122s
               of the coupling member 122 is fitted is formed in the supported portion 14a of the
               second intermediate member 14, and the second intermediate member 14 is rotatably
               supported by the support portion 122s. The supported portion 14a of the second intermediate
               member 14 is in contact with the distal end of the support portion 122s, which restricts
               the movement of the second intermediate member 14 toward the turbine runner 5. Furthermore,
               on the outer periphery of the third plate member 113, a plurality of movement restricting
               protrusions 113s protruding from a surface on the turbine runner 5 side toward the
               second intermediate member 14 are formed at intervals in the circumferential direction.
               Thus, the supported portion 14a of the second intermediate member 14 is in contact
               with the movement restricting protrusions 113s of the third plate member 113, which
               restricts the movement of the second intermediate member 14 in a direction away from
               the turbine runner 5 (toward the lockup piston 80).
 
            [0029] The driven member 16, structured as a plate-like annular member, is disposed between
               the second plate member 112 and the third plate member 113 of the drive member 11
               in the axial direction as depicted in FIG. 2, and is fixed to the damper hub 7 (the
               second support portion 72 in the present embodiment) via rivets. Accordingly, the
               driven member 16 rotates integrally with the damper hub 7. The driven member 16 has
               a plurality of (e.g., three in the present embodiment) spring-accommodating slots
               that each extend in a circular arc shape and are disposed at intervals (evenly spaced)
               in the circumferential direction, a plurality of (e.g., three in the present embodiment)
               inner-spring contact portions (inner contact portions) 16ci that are formed at intervals
               in the circumferential direction so as to be positioned close to the inner periphery
               of the driven member 16, and a plurality of (e.g., four in the present embodiment)
               outer-spring contact portions (outer contact portions) 16co that are aligned radially
               outward of inner-spring contact portions 16ci at intervals (evenly spaced) in the
               circumferential direction and extend in the axial direction from the turbine runner
               5 side toward the lockup piston 80. The inner-spring contact portions 16ci of the
               driven member 16 are provided one by one between the spring-accommodating slots that
               are adjacent each other along the circumferential direction.
 
            [0030] As depicted in FIG. 2, each first outer spring SP11 is paired with a second outer
               spring SP12 (acts in series). The first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 are
               supported by the elastic-body support member 121 of the first intermediate member
               12 so as to be alternately aligned along the circumferential direction of the first
               intermediate member 12. The spring contact portions 111c of the first plate member
               111 of the drive member 11 are each in contact with an end of the corresponding first
               outer spring SP11 or an end of the corresponding second outer spring SP12 in an assembled
               state of the damper device 10. Furthermore, as depicted in FIG. 3, each spring contact
               portion 121c of the elastic-body support member 121 is interposed between the first
               and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 that are paired and adjacent each other (act
               in series), and is in contact with ends of both springs. As depicted in FIG. 3, each
               first spring contact portion 122c of the coupling member 122 is also interposed between
               the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 that are paired and adjacent each
               other, and is in contact with ends of both springs.
 
            [0031] In other words, in the assembled state of the damper device 10, one end (end close
               to the intermediate spring SPm in FIG. 3) of each first outer spring SP11 is in contact
               with the corresponding spring contact portion 111c of the drive member 11, and the
               other end (end close to the second outer spring SP12 in FIG. 3) of the first outer
               spring SP11 is in contact with the corresponding spring contact portion 121c and the
               corresponding first spring contact portion 122c of the first intermediate member 12.
               In the assembled state of the damper device 10, one end (end close to the first outer
               spring SP11 in FIG. 3) of each second outer spring SP12 is in contact with the corresponding
               spring contact portion 121c and the corresponding first spring contact portion 122c
               of the first intermediate member 12, and the other end (end close to the intermediate
               spring SPm in FIG. 3) of the second outer spring SP12 is in contact with the corresponding
               spring contact portion 111c of the drive member 11.
 
            [0032] Furthermore, similarly to each spring contact portion 111c of the drive member 11,
               each outer-spring contact portion 16co of the driven member 16 is interposed between
               the corresponding first outer springs SP11 and the corresponding second outer spring
               SP12, and is in contact with ends of both springs. In other words, in the assembled
               state of the damper device 10, one end (end close to the intermediate spring SPm)
               of each first outer spring SP11 and the other end (end close to the intermediate spring
               SPm) of the second outer spring SP12 that is paired with this first outer spring SP11
               are each in contact with the corresponding outer-spring contact portion 16co of the
               driven member 16. Consequently, the driven member 16 is coupled to the drive member
               11 via the first outer springs SP11, the first intermediate member 12 (the elastic-body
               support member 121 and the coupling member 122), and the second outer springs SP12.
 
            [0033] The coupling member 122 of the first intermediate member 12 is fixed to the turbine
               runner 5, and thus the first intermediate member 12 and the turbine runner 5 are coupled
               so as to rotate integrally. Coupling the turbine runner 5 (and the turbine hub 52)
               to the first intermediate member 12 in this manner enables the substantial moment
               of inertia (sum of the moments of inertia of the elastic-body support member 121,
               the coupling member 122, and the turbine runner 5, for example) of the first intermediate
               member 12 to be further increased. Coupling the turbine runner 5 to the first intermediate
               member 12 disposed radially outward of the first and second inner springs SP21 and
               SP22, i.e., in the outer peripheral region in the fluid transmission chamber 9, can
               prevent the coupling member 122 from passing through between the third plate member
               113 of the drive member 11 or the first and second inner springs SP21 and SP22 and
               the turbine runner 5 in the axial direction. Accordingly, the axial length of the
               damper device 10 and consequently the axial length of the starting device 1 can be
               more satisfactorily prevented from increasing.
 
            [0034] In contrast, as depicted in FIGS. 2 and 3, the spring support portions 112a of the
               second plate member 112 each support (guide), from the inner peripheral side, a lockup
               piston 80-side side portion of the corresponding pair of the first and second inner
               springs SP21 and SP22 (one for each). The spring support portions 112b each support
               (guide), from the outer peripheral side, the lockup piston 80-side side portion of
               the corresponding pair of the first and second inner springs SP21 and SP22. Furthermore,
               as depicted in FIG. 2, the spring support portions 113a of the third plate member
               113 each support (guide), from the inner peripheral side, a turbine runner 5-side
               side portion of the corresponding pair of the first and second inner springs SP21
               and SP22 (one for each). The spring support portions 113b each support (guide), from
               the outer peripheral side, the turbine runner 5-side side portion of the corresponding
               pair of the first and second inner springs SP21 and SP22. In other words, each first
               inner spring SP21 is paired with a second inner spring SP22 (acts in series), and
               the first and second inner springs SP21 and SP22 are supported by the spring support
               portions 112a and 112b of the second plate member 112 and the spring support portions
               113a and 113b of the third plate member 113 that constitute the drive member 11 so
               as to be alternately aligned in the circumferential direction (the circumferential
               direction of the second intermediate member 14).
 
            [0035] Furthermore, as depicted in FIG. 3, in the assembled state of the damper device 10,
               each spring contact portion 112c of the second plate member 112 is interposed between
               the first and second inner springs SP21 and SP22 that are supported by the different
               spring-accommodating slots 112w (spring support portions 112a, 112b, 113a, and 113b)
               and that are not paired (do not act in series), and is in contact with ends of both
               springs. Similarly, in the assembled state of the damper device 10, each spring contact
               portion 113c of the third plate member 113 is interposed between the first and second
               inner springs SP21 and SP22 that (are not paired) are supported by the different spring
               support portions 112a, 112b, 113a, and 113b (spring-accommodating slots), and is in
               contact with ends of both springs. As depicted in FIG. 3, each first spring contact
               portion 14c of the second intermediate member 14 is interposed between the first and
               second inner springs SP21 and SP22 that are paired (act in series), and is in contact
               with ends of both springs.
 
            [0036] In other words, in the assembled state of the damper device 10, one end of each first
               inner spring SP21 is in contact with the corresponding spring contact portion 112c
               and the corresponding spring contact portion 113c of the drive member 11, and the
               other end of the first inner spring SP21 is in contact with the corresponding first
               spring contact portion 14c of the second intermediate member 14. Furthermore, in the
               assembled state of the damper device 10, one end of each second inner spring SP22
               is in contact with the corresponding first spring contact portion 14c of the second
               intermediate member 14, and the other end of the second inner spring SP22 is in contact
               with the corresponding spring contact portion 112c and the corresponding spring contact
               portion 113c of the drive member 11. Herein, spring sheets Ss may be disposed as depicted
               in FIG. 3 between the first spring contact portion 14c and the other end of the first
               inner spring SP21 and between the first spring contact portion 14c and the one end
               of the second inner spring SP22.
 
            [0037] In the assembled state of the damper device 10, similarly to the spring contact portions
               112c and 113c of the drive member 11, each inner-spring contact portion 16ci of the
               driven member 16 is interposed between the first and second inner springs SP21 and
               SP22 that are not paired (do not act in series), and is in contact with ends of both
               springs. Accordingly, in the assembled state of the damper device 10, the one end
               of each first inner spring SP21 is also in contact with the corresponding inner-spring
               contact portion 16ci of the driven member 16, and the other end of the second inner
               spring SP22 is also in contact with the corresponding inner-spring contact portion
               16ci of the driven member 16. Consequently, the driven member 16 is coupled to the
               drive member 11 via the first inner springs SP21, the second intermediate member 14,
               and the second inner springs SP22.
 
            [0038] In the assembled state of the damper device 10, each intermediate spring SPm is supported
               from both sides by a pair of the second spring contact portions 122d of the first
               intermediate member 12 (coupling member 122), and is also supported from both sides
               by a pair of the second spring contact portions 14d of the second intermediate member
               14. Accordingly, the first intermediate member 12 and the second intermediate member
               14 are coupled to each other via the intermediate springs SPm. In the present embodiment,
               between each end of the intermediate springs SPm and the second spring contact portions
               14d and 122d, the spring sheet Ss is disposed as depicted in FIGS. 1 and 5.
 
            [0039] Furthermore, as depicted in FIG. 1, the damper device 10 includes a first stopper
               21 that restricts relative rotation between the first intermediate member 12 and the
               driven member 16 and deformation of the second outer springs SP12, a second stopper
               22 that restricts relative rotation between the second intermediate member 14 and
               the driven member 16 and deformation of the second inner springs SP22, and a third
               stopper 23 that restricts relative rotation between the drive member 11 and the driven
               member 16. The first and second stoppers 21 and 22 are structured so as to restrict
               relative rotation of the associated rotating elements and deformation of the associated
               springs substantially simultaneously when input torque transmitted from the engine
               EG to the drive member 11 has reached a predetermined torque (first threshold) T1
               that is smaller than a torque T2 (second threshold) corresponding to the maximum torsional
               angle θmax of the damper device 10. The third stopper 23 is structured so as to restrict
               relative rotation between the drive member 11 and the driven member 16 when torque
               input to the drive member 11 has reached the torque T2 corresponding to the maximum
               torsional angle θmax. Accordingly, the damper device 10 has damping characteristics
               in two stages.
 
            [0040] In the present embodiment, as depicted in FIG. 2, the first stopper 21 is structured
               with a plurality of stopper portions 122x that are extended in the axial direction
               from the coupling member 122 constituting the first intermediate member 12 toward
               the lockup piston 80 at intervals in the circumferential direction and a plurality
               of cutout portions 161x that are formed in the outer periphery of the driven member
               16 at intervals in the circumferential direction and each extend in a circular arc
               shape. In the assembled state of the damper device 10, each stopper portion 122x of
               the first intermediate member 12 (coupling member 122) is inserted into any one of
               a plurality of slits 14v each having a circular arc shape and formed in the outer
               periphery of the supported portion 14a of the second intermediate member 14 at intervals
               in the circumferential direction, and is disposed so as not to be in contact with
               wall surfaces of the driven member 16 that, in the corresponding cutout portion 161x
               of the driven member 16, define both ends of the cutout portion 161x. Accordingly,
               when each stopper portion 122x of the coupling member 122 comes into contact with
               one of the wall surfaces defining both ends of the cutout portion 161x as a result
               of relative rotation between the first intermediate member 12 and the driven member
               16, the relative rotation between the first intermediate member 12 and the driven
               member 16 and deformation of the second outer springs SP12 are restricted. Note that,
               in the present embodiment, during a period until relative rotation between the drive
               member 11 and the driven member 16 is restricted by the third stopper 23, each stopper
               portion 122x of the first intermediate member 12 does not come into contact with wall
               surfaces of the second intermediate member 14 defining both ends of each slit 14v.
 
            [0041] In the present embodiment, as depicted in FIG. 2, the second stopper 22 is structured
               with a plurality of slits 14x that are formed in the inner periphery of the supported
               portion 14a of the second intermediate member 14 at intervals in the circumferential
               direction and that each extend in a circular arc shape and a plurality of stopper
               portions 162x that are extended in the axial direction from the driven member 16 toward
               the turbine runner 5 at intervals in the circumferential direction. In the assembled
               state of the damper device 10, each stopper portion 162x of the driven member 16 is
               inserted into any one of a plurality of slits 113v each having a circular arc shape
               and formed in the outer periphery of the third plate member 113 of the drive member
               11 at intervals in the circumferential direction, and is disposed so as not to be
               in contact with wall surfaces of the second intermediate member 14 that, in the corresponding
               slit 14x of the second intermediate member 14, define both ends of the slit 14x. Accordingly,
               when each stopper portion 162x of the driven member 16 comes into contact with one
               of the wall surfaces defining both ends of the slit 14x of the second intermediate
               member 14 as a result of relative rotation between the second intermediate member
               14 and the driven member 16, the relative rotation between the second intermediate
               member 14 and the driven member 16 and deformation of the second inner springs SP22
               are restricted. Note that, in the present embodiment, during a period until relative
               rotation between the drive member 11 and the driven member 16 is restricted by the
               third stopper 23, each stopper portion 162x of the driven member 16 does not come
               into contact with wall surfaces of the third plate member 113 defining both ends of
               each slit 113v.
 
            [0042] Furthermore, in the present embodiment, as depicted in FIG. 2, the third stopper
               23 is structured with collars attached to a plurality of rivets that couple the second
               and third plate members 112 and 113 constituting the drive member 11 and a plurality
               of cutout portions 163x each having a circular arc shape formed on the driven member
               16 at intervals in the circumferential direction. In the assembled state of the damper
               device 10, these rivets 123 and the collars are each disposed so as not to be in contact
               with wall surfaces of the driven member 16 that, in the corresponding cutout portion
               163x of the driven member 16, define both ends of the cutout portion 163x. Accordingly,
               when each collar comes into contact with one of the wall surfaces defining both ends
               of the cutout portion 163x as a result of relative rotation between the drive member
               11 and the driven member 16, the relative rotation between the drive member 11 and
               the driven member 16 is restricted.
 
            [0043] The following describes operation of the damper device 10. In the starting device
               1, when lockup by the lockup clutch 8 is released, for example, rotational torque
               (power) transmitted from the engine EG to the front cover 3 is transmitted to the
               input shaft IS of the transmission TM through a path of the pump impeller 4, the turbine
               runner 5, the first intermediate member 12, the second outer springs SP12, the driven
               member 16, and the damper hub 7, and also through a path of the pump impeller 4, the
               turbine runner 5, the first intermediate member 12, the intermediate springs SPm,
               the second intermediate member 14, the second inner springs SP22, the driven member
               16, and the damper hub 7. In contrast, when lockup is performed by the lockup clutch
               8 of the starting device 1, while the drive member 11 reaches the torque T1, i.e.,
               during a period when deformation is allowed in all of the first and second outer springs
               SP11 and SP12, the first and second inner springs SP21 and SP22, and the intermediate
               springs SPm, rotational torque (input torque) transmitted from the engine EG to the
               drive member 11 via the front cover 3 and the lockup clutch 8 (lockup piston 80) is
               transmitted to the driven member 16 and the damper hub 7 via all the springs SP11
               to SPm.
 
            [0044] In other words, during a period until the input torque reaches the torque T1 while
               lockup is being performed, the first outer springs (first elastic body) SP11 transmit
               rotational torque from the drive member 11 to the first intermediate member 12, and
               the second outer springs (second elastic body) SP12 transmit the rotational torque
               from the first intermediate member 12 to the driven member 16. The first inner springs
               (third elastic body) SP21 transmit rotational torque from the drive member 11 to the
               second intermediate member 14, and the second inner springs (fourth elastic body)
               SP22 transmit the rotational torque from the second intermediate member 14 to the
               driven member 16. Thus, the damper device 10 has, as torque transfer paths between
               the drive member 11 and the driven member 16, a first torque transfer path P1 including
               the first outer springs SP11, the first intermediate member 12, and the second outer
               springs SP12 and a second torque transfer path P2 including the first inner springs
               SP21, the second intermediate member 14, and the second inner springs SP22 as depicted
               in FIG. 6.
 
            [0045] In the damper device 10, as described above, the spring constants k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 of the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 and the first and second inner
               springs SP21 and SP22 satisfy the relation of k
11<k
12<k
22<k
21. Accordingly, when torque is transmitted to the drive member 11 during a period until
               the input torque reaches the torque T1 while lockup is being performed, the second
               intermediate member 14 (slightly) twists toward the moving direction side (downstream)
               in the rotation direction (rotation direction when a vehicle moves forward) with respect
               to the first intermediate member 12 as depicted in FIG. 6. Consequently, each intermediate
               spring SPm is pressed, by one of a pair of the second spring contact portions 14d
               of the second intermediate member 14, which is opposite to the spring contact portion
               14d on the moving direction side in the rotation direction, toward one of a pair of
               the second spring contact portions 122d of the first intermediate member 12, which
               is on the moving direction side in the rotation direction. In other words, during
               a period until the input torque reaches the torque T1 while lockup is being performed,
               the intermediate springs SPm transmit, to the first intermediate member 12, part of
               torque (part of average torque) transmitted from the drive member 11 to the second
               intermediate member 14 via the first inner springs SP21. Thus, the damper device 10
               has a third torque transfer path P3 including the first inner springs SP21, the second
               intermediate member 14, the intermediate springs SPm, the first intermediate member
               12, and the second outer springs SP12.
 
            [0046] Consequently, during a period until torque input to the drive member 11 reaches the
               torque T1 while lockup is being performed, through the first, second, and third torque
               transfer paths P1, P2, and P3, torque is transmitted from the drive member 11 to the
               driven member 16. More specifically, during a period when deformation is allowed in
               all of the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12, the first and second inner
               springs SP21 and SP22, and the intermediate springs SPm, rotational torque from the
               first outer springs SP11 and rotational torque from the first inner springs SP21,
               the second intermediate member 14, and the intermediate springs SPm are transmitted
               to the second outer springs SP12. Rotational torque from the first inner springs SP21
               is transmitted to the second inner springs SP22. During a period deformation is allowed
               in all of the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12, the first and second inner
               springs SP21 and SP22, and the intermediate springs SPm, fluctuations of torque transmitted
               to the drive member 11 are damped (absorbed) by the springs SP11 to SPm. This makes
               it possible to satisfactorily improve the vibration damping performance of the damper
               device 10 when input torque transmitted to the drive member 11 is relatively small
               and the rotational speed of the drive member 11 is low.
 
            [0047] When torque input to the drive member 11 has reached the torque T1 and the first
               and second stoppers 21 and 22 are activated, the first stopper 21 restricts relative
               rotation between the first intermediate member 12 and the driven member 16 and deformation
               of the second outer springs SP12, and the second stopper 22 restricts relative rotation
               between the second intermediate member 14 and the driven member 16 and deformation
               of the second inner springs SP22. This restricts the relative rotation of the first
               and second intermediate members 12 and 14 with respect to the driven member 16, thereby
               restricting deformation of the intermediate springs SPm. Thus, after the torque input
               to the drive member 11 has reached the torque T1, until the input torque reaches the
               torque T2 and the third stopper 23 is activated, the first outer springs SP11 and
               the first inner springs SP21 act in parallel to damp (absorb) fluctuations of torque
               transmitted to the drive member 11.
 
            [0048] The following describes a design procedure for the damper device 10.
 
            [0049] As described above, in the damper device 10, when deformation is allowed in all of
               the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12, the first and second inner springs
               SP21 and SP22, and the intermediate springs SPm, torque (average torque) is transmitted
               via all the springs SP11 to SPm between the drive member 11 and the driven member
               16. The inventors conducted intensive research and analyses on the damper device 10
               having complex torque transfer paths that are formed neither in series nor in parallel
               as described above, and consequently found that the entire device of the damper device
               10 has two natural frequencies when deformation is allowed in all the springs SP11
               to SPm. According to the research and analyses conducted by the inventors, also in
               the damper device 10, when resonance (resonance of the first intermediate member 12
               when the first and second intermediate members 12 and 14 vibrate in the same phase
               in the present embodiment) occurs at a lower natural frequency (natural frequency
               on the low rotational-speed side (low frequency side)) of the two natural frequencies
               depending on the frequency of vibrations transmitted to the drive member 11, the phase
               of vibrations transmitted from the second outer springs SP12 to the driven member
               16 and the phase of vibrations transmitted from the second inner springs SP22 to the
               driven member 16 shift apart. Accordingly, as the rotational speed of the drive member
               11 increases after the resonance has occurred at the lower natural frequency of the
               two natural frequencies, one of a set of vibrations transmitted from the second outer
               springs SP12 to the driven member 16 and a set of vibrations transmitted from the
               second inner springs SP22 to driven member 16 cancels at least part of the other set
               of vibrations.
 
            [0050] Based on these findings, the inventors formulated an equation of motion of Formula
               (1) below for a vibration system including the damper device 10 in a state in which
               torque has been transmitted from the engine (internal combustion engine) EG to the
               drive member 11 by performing lockup. In Formula (1), "J
1" is the moment of inertia of the drive member 11, "J
21" is the moment of inertia of the first intermediate member 12, "J
22" is the moment of inertia of the second intermediate member 14, and "J
3" is the moment of inertia of the driven member 16. "θ
1" is the torsional angle of the drive member 11, "θ
21" is the torsional angle of the first intermediate member 12, "θ
22" is the torsional angle of the second intermediate member 14, and "θ
3" is the torsional angle of the driven member 16. Furthermore, "k
1" is a combined spring constant of the first outer springs SP11 that act in parallel
               between the drive member 11 and the first intermediate member 12, "k
2" is a combined spring constant of the second outer springs SP12 that act in parallel
               between the first intermediate member 12 and the driven member 16, "k
3" is a combined spring constant of the first inner springs SP21 that act in parallel
               between the drive member 11 and the second intermediate member 14, "k
4" is a combined spring constant of the second inner springs SP22 that act in parallel
               between the second intermediate member 14 and the driven member 16, "k
5" is a combined spring constant (stiffness) of the intermediate springs SPm that act
               in parallel between the first intermediate member 12 and the second intermediate member
               14, "k
R" is stiffness i.e., a spring constant in the transmission TM or a drive shaft, for
               example, disposed between the driven member 16 and wheels of the vehicle, and "T"
               is input torque transmitted from the engine EG to the drive member 11.

 
            [0051] Furthermore, the inventors assumed that the input torque T periodically oscillates
               as represented by Formula (2) below, and also that the torsional angle θ
1 of the drive member 11, the torsional angle θ
21 of the first intermediate member 12, the torsional angle θ
22 of the second intermediate member 14, and the torsional angle θ
3 of the driven member 16 periodically respond (oscillate) as represented by Formula
               (3) below. In Formulae (2) and (3), "ω" is the angular frequency of periodic fluctuations
               (oscillations) of the input torque T. In Formula (3), "Θ
1" is the amplitude (vibration amplitude, i.e., the maximum torsional angle) of vibrations
               of the drive member 11 that are generated when torque from the engine EG is transmitted,
               "Θ
21" is the amplitude (vibration amplitude) of vibrations of the first intermediate member
               12 that are generated when torque from the engine EG is transmitted to the drive member
               11, "Θ
22" is the amplitude (vibration amplitude) of vibrations of the second intermediate
               member 14 that are generated when torque from the engine EG is transmitted to the
               drive member 11, and "Θ
3" is the amplitude (vibration amplitude) of vibrations of the driven member 16 that
               are generated when torque from the engine EG is transmitted to the drive member 11.
               Under these assumptions, Formulae (2) and (3) are substituted into Formula (1), and
               both sides are divided by "sinωt", whereby the identity of Formula (4) below can be
               obtained.
 
  
 
 
            [0052] The inventors focused on the fact that when the vibration amplitude Θ
3 of the driven member 16 in Formula (4) becomes zero, vibrations from the engine EG
               are damped by the damper device 10, whereby theoretically vibrations are not transmitted
               to the transmission TM or the drive shaft, for example, in stages posterior to the
               driven member 16. In view of this, the inventors solved the identity of Formula (4)
               for the vibration amplitude Θ
3 and assumed Θ
3=0 to obtain the conditional expression of Formula (5) below. When the relation of
               Formula (5) holds, vibrations from the engine EG transmitted from the drive member
               11 to the driven member 16 through the first, second, and third torque transfer paths
               P1, P2, and P3 cancel each other, so that the vibration amplitude Θ
3 of the driven member 16 theoretically becomes zero. 

 
            [0053] From this analysis result, it can be understood that, in the damper device 10 having
               the above-described structure, by the occurrence of resonance at the lower natural
               frequency of the two natural frequencies, the phase of vibrations transmitted from
               the second outer springs SP12 to the driven member 16 and the phase of vibrations
               transmitted from the second inner springs SP22 to the driven member 16 are shifted
               180° (are reversed) from each other, whereby both sets of vibrations are mutually
               canceled, so that an antiresonance point A where the vibration amplitude Θ
3 (torque fluctuations) of the driven member 16 theoretically becomes zero can be set
               as depicted in FIG. 7. When the frequency at the antiresonance point A is "fa" and
               "ω=2πfa" is substituted into Formula (5), the frequency fa at the antiresonance point
               A can be represented by Formula (6) below. Herein, FIG. 7 illustrates relations between
               the rotational speed of the engine EG and the theoretical (on the assumption that
               hysteresis does not exist) vibration amplitudes (torque fluctuations) in the driven
               members of the damper device of the present disclosure and the damper device (damper
               device described in Patent Document 1, hereinafter, called "damper device of the comparative
               example") in which the intermediate springs SPm are omitted.

 
            [0054] When it is assumed that the torsional angle θ
1 of the drive member 11 and the torsional angle θ
2 of the driven member 16 are zero and both displacements of the drive member 11 and
               the driven member 16 are zero, Formula (1) can be modified into Formula (7) below.
               Furthermore, assuming that the first and second intermediate members 12 and 14 harmonically
               vibrate as represented by Formula (8) below, Formula (8) is substituted into Formula
               (7) and both sides are divided by "sinωt", whereby the identity of Formula (9) below
               can be obtained. 
 
  
 
 
            [0055] When the first and second intermediate members 12 and 14 harmonically vibrate, the
               amplitudes Θ
21 and Θ
22 do not become zero, so that the determinant of the square matrix on the left side
               of Formula (9) is zero, which requires the conditional expression of Formula (10)
               below to hold. Formula (10) is a quadratic equation for square values ω
2 of two natural angular frequencies of the damper device 10. Thus, two natural angular
               frequencies ω
1 and ω
2 of the damper device 10 are represented by Formulae (11) and (12) below, and ω
1<ω
2 holds. Consequently, when the frequency of resonance (resonance point R1) that generates
               the resonance point A, i.e., the natural frequency of the first intermediate member
               12, is "f
21", and the frequency of resonance (resonance point R2) that occurs on the higher rotational-speed
               side of the antiresonance point A, i.e., the natural frequency of the second intermediate
               member 14, is "f
22", the natural frequency f
21 on the low rotational-speed side (low frequency side) is represented by Formula (13)
               below, and the natural frequency f
22 (f
22>f
21) on the high rotational-speed side (high frequency side) is represented by Formula
               (14) below. 
 
  
  
  
 
 
            [0056] The equivalent stiffness k
eq of the damper device 10 when deformation is allowed in all of the first and second
               outer springs SP11 and SP12, the first and second inner springs SP21 and SP22, and
               the intermediate springs SPm can be obtained as follows. Specifically, assuming that
               a constant input torque (static external force) of T=T
0 is transmitted to the drive member 11 and also assuming that the equilibrium relation
               of Formula (15) below holds, the identity of Formula (16) below can be obtained by
               substituting T=To and Formula (15) into Formula (1).
 
 
 
            [0057] Furthermore, among the torque T
0, the equivalent stiffness k
eq of the damper device 10, the vibration amplitude (torsional angle) Θ
1 of the drive member 11, and the vibration amplitude (torsional angle) Θ
3 of the driven member 16, the relation of T
0=k
eq·(Θ
1-Θ
3) holds. Furthermore, when the identity of Formula (16) is solved for the vibration
               amplitudes (torsional angles) Θ
1 and Θ
3, "Θ
1-Θ
3" is represented by Formula (17) below. Thus, from T
0=k
eq·(Θ
1-Θ
3) and Formula (17), the equivalent stiffness k
eq of the damper device 10 is represented by Formula (18) below.
 
 
 
            [0058] FIGS. 8 to 13 show the results of the analyses conducted by the inventors on the
               natural frequency f
21 on the low rotational-speed side, the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A,
               and the equivalent stiffness k
eq in the damper device 10 that are obtained in a manner described above. FIGS. 8 to
               13 each show how the natural frequency f
21, the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A, and the equivalent stiffness k
eq change, when only one parameter out of the combined spring constants k
1, k
2, k
3, k
4, and k
5 and the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 of the first and second intermediate members 12 is changed with the other parameters
               being kept at the respective constant values (fixed values).
 
            [0059] When only the combined spring constant (stiffness) k
1 of the first outer springs (first elastic body) SP11 is changed with the combined
               spring constants k
2, k
3, k
4, and k
5 and the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 in the damper device 10 being kept at the respective constant values, the natural
               frequency f
21 and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A increase as the combined spring
               constant k
1 increases, and gradually decrease as the combined spring constant k
1 decreases as shown in FIG. 8. In contrast, the equivalent stiffness k
eq sharply increases when the combined spring constant k
1 is increased slightly from a value adapted in advance, and sharply decreases when
               the combined spring constant k
1 is decreased slightly from the adapted value as depicted in FIG. 8. In other words,
               the change (change gradient) in the equivalent stiffness k
eq with respect to the change in the combined spring constant k
1 of the first outer springs SP11 is significantly large.
 
            [0060] When only the combined spring constant (stiffness) k
2 of the second outer springs (second elastic body) SP12 is changed with the combined
               spring constants k
1, k
3, k
4, and k
5 and the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 in the damper device 10 being kept at the respective constant values, the natural
               frequency f
21 and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A increase as the combined spring
               constant k
2 increases, and gradually decreases as the combined spring constant k
2 decreases as shown in FIG. 9. Furthermore, the equivalent stiffness k
eq sharply increases when the combined spring constant k
2 is increased slightly from a value adapted in advance, and sharply decreases when
               the combined spring constant k
2 is decreased slightly from the adapted value as shown in FIG. 9. In other words,
               the change (change gradient) in the equivalent stiffness k
eq with respect to the change in the combined spring constant k
2 of the second outer springs SP12 is also significantly large.
 
            [0061] When only the combined spring constant (stiffness) k
3 of the first inner springs (third elastic body) SP21 is changed with the combined
               spring constants k
1, k
2, k
4, and k
5 and the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 in the damper device 10 being kept at the respective constant values, the natural
               frequency f
21 slightly increases (is maintained substantially constant) as the combined spring
               constant k
3 increases, and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A increases as the combined
               spring constant k
3 decreases, and gradually decreases as the combined spring constant k
3 increases as shown in FIG. 10. The equivalent stiffness k
eq sharply decreases when the combined spring constant k
3 is decreased slightly from a value adapted in advance, and sharply increases when
               the combined spring constant k
3 is increased slightly from the adapted value as shown in FIG. 10. In other words,
               the change (change gradient) in the equivalent stiffness k
eq with respect to the change in the combined spring constant k
3 of the first inner springs SP21 is also significantly large.
 
            [0062] Furthermore, also when only the combined spring constant (stiffness) k
4 of the second inner springs (fourth elastic body) SP22 is changed with the combined
               spring constants k
1, k
2, k
3, and k
5 and the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 in the damper device 10 being kept at the respective constant values, the natural
               frequency f
21 slightly increases (is maintained substantially constant) as the combined spring
               constant k
4 increases, and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A increases as the combined
               spring constant k
4 decreases, and gradually decreases as the combined spring constant k
4 increases as shown in FIG. 11. The equivalent stiffness k
eq sharply decreases when the combined spring constant k
4 is decreased slightly from a value adapted in advance, and sharply increases when
               the combined spring constant k
4 is increased slightly from the adapted value as shown in FIG. 11. In other words,
               the change (change gradient) in the equivalent stiffness k
eq with respect to the change in the combined spring constant k
4 of the second inner springs SP22 is also significantly large.
 
            [0063] When only the combined spring constant (stiffness) k
5 of the intermediate springs (fifth elastic body) SPm is changed with the combined
               spring constants k
1, k
2, k
3, and k
4 and the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 in the damper device 10 being kept at the respective constant values, the natural
               frequency f
21 and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A increase as the combined spring
               constant k
5 increases, and gradually decrease as the combined spring constant k
5 decreases as shown in FIG. 12. The difference (fa-f
21) between the natural frequency f
21 and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A corresponding to a certain combined
               spring constant k
5 gradually increase as the combined spring constant k
5 increases as shown in FIG. 12. Furthermore, when only the combined spring constant
               k
5 of the intermediate springs SPm is changed, the equivalent stiffness k
eq increases as the combined spring constant k
5 increases, and gradually decreases as the combined spring constant k
5 decreases as shown in FIG. 12. In other words, the change (change gradient) in the
               equivalent stiffness k
eq with respect to the change in the combined spring constant (stiffness) k
5 of the intermediate springs SPm is much smaller than the changes (change gradients)
               in the equivalent stiffness k
eq with respect to the changes in the combined spring constants (stiffnesses) k
1, k
2, k
3, and k
4.
 
            [0064] When only the moment of inertia J
21 of the first intermediate member 12 is changed with the combined spring constants
               k
1, k
2, k
3, k
4, and k
5 and the moment of inertia J
22 of the second intermediate member 14 in the damper device 10 being kept at the respective
               constant values, the natural frequency f
21 and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A increase as the moment of inertia
               J
21 decreases, and gradually decrease as the moment of inertia J
21 increases as shown in FIG. 13. Furthermore, even when only the moment of inertia
               J
21 of the first intermediate member 12 is changed, the equivalent stiffness k
eq is maintained substantially constant as shown in FIG. 13. Although not shown in the
               drawings, also when only the moment of inertia J
22 of the second intermediate member 14 is changed with the combined spring constants
               k
1, k
2, k
3, k
4, and k
5 and the moment of inertia J
21 of the first intermediate member 12 in the damper device 10 being kept at the respective
               constant values, the same result is obtained as in the case where only the moment
               of inertia J
21 of the first intermediate member 12 is changed.
 
            [0065] As can be seen from the analysis results described above, reducing the stiffness
               of the intermediate springs SPm (reducing the spring constant k
m and the combined spring constant K
5) can reduce the natural frequency f
21 on the low rotational-speed side (see Formula (13)) and the frequency fa at the antiresonance
               point A (see Formula (6)). Conversely, increasing the stiffness of the intermediate
               springs SPm (increasing the spring constant k
m and the combined spring constant K
5) can increase the difference (fa-f
21) between the natural frequency f
21 on the low rotational-speed side and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point
               A. Furthermore, even when the stiffness of the intermediate springs SPm is reduced
               (even when the spring constant k
m and the combined spring constant K
5 are set to smaller values), the equivalent stiffness k
eq does not significantly decrease. Thus, in the damper device 10, by adjusting the
               stiffness of the intermediate springs SPm (the spring constant k
m and the combined spring constant K
5), it is possible to suitably set the natural frequency f
21 on the low rotational-speed side and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point
               A while suitably maintaining the equivalent stiffness keq in accordance with the maximum
               input torque to the drive member 11 and preventing the weights of the first and second
               intermediate members 12 and 14, that is, the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22, from increasing. In addition, by reducing the stiffnesses of the first and second
               outer springs SP11 and SP12 (decreasing the spring constants k
11 and k
12 and the combined spring constants K
1 and K
2), the natural frequency f
21 on the low rotational-speed side and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point
               A can be reduced. Furthermore, by increasing the stiffnesses of the first and second
               inner springs SP21 and SP22 (increasing the spring constants k
21 and k
22 and the combined spring constants K
3 and K
4), the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A can be reduced.
 
            [0066] In a vehicle carrying the engine (internal combustion engine) EG as a power generating
               source for travelling, lowering the lockup rotational speed Nlup to mechanically transmit
               torque from the engine EG to the transmission TM earlier can improve the efficiency
               of power transfer between the engine EG and the transmission TM, thereby improving
               the fuel efficiency of the engine EG. However, in a low rotational-speed range of
               about 500 rpm to 1500 rpm that can be a range within which the lockup rotational speed
               Nlup is set, vibrations transmitted from the engine EG to the drive member 11 via
               the lockup clutch become larger, so that increase in vibration level is significant
               especially in a vehicle carrying an engine having fewer cylinders such as a three-cylinder
               or four-cylinder engine. Thus, in order to prevent such large vibrations from being
               transmitted to the transmission TM, for example, when lockup is performed or immediately
               after lockup has been started, it is necessary to reduce the vibration level in a
               rotational-speed range near the lockup rotational speed Nlup of the entire damper
               device 10 (driven member 16) that transmits torque (vibrations) from the engine EG
               to the transmission TM while lockup is being performed.
 
            [0067] In view of this, the inventors have structured the damper device 10 such that, based
               on the lockup rotational speed Nlup determined for the lockup clutch 8, the antiresonance
               point A is formed when the rotational speed of the engine EG is within a range of
               500 rpm to 1500 rpm (expected range within which the lockup rotational speed Nlup
               is set). The rotational speed Nea of the engine EG corresponding to the frequency
               fa at the antiresonance point A is expressed as Nea=(120/n)·fa, where "n" is the number
               of cylinders of the engine (internal combustion engine) EG. Thus, in the damper device
               10, the combined spring constant k
1 of the first outer springs SP11, the combined spring constant k
2 of the second outer springs SP12, the combined spring constant k
3 of the first inner springs SP21, the combined spring constant k
4 of the second inner springs SP22, the combined spring constant k
5 of the intermediate springs SPm, the moment of inertia J
21 of the first intermediate member 12 (in which the moment of inertia of the turbine
               runner 5, for example, that is coupled so as to rotate integrally therewith is considered
               (added), the same applies hereinafter), and the moment of inertia J
22 of the second intermediate member 14 are selected and set so as to satisfy Formula
               (19) below. In other words, in the damper device 10, based on the frequency fa at
               the antiresonance point A (and the lockup rotational speed Nlup), the spring constants
               k
11, k
12, k
21, k
22, and k
m of the springs SP11 to SPm and the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 of the first and second intermediate members 12 and 14 are selected and set.

 
            [0068] In this manner, by setting the antiresonance point A at which the vibration amplitude
               Θ
3 of the driven member 16 can be theoretically reduced to zero (vibrations can be further
               lowered) within the low rotational-speed range (expected range within which the lockup
               rotational speed Nlup is set) of 500 rpm to 1500 rpm, as depicted in FIG. 7, the resonance
               that generates the antiresonance point A (resonance that has to be generated so as
               to form the antiresonance point A, the resonance of the first intermediate member
               12 in the present embodiment, see the resonance point R1 in FIG. 7) can be shifted
               toward the lower rotational-speed side (lower frequency side) so as to be included
               in the non-lockup region (see the dashed and double-dotted line in FIG. 7) of the
               lockup clutch 8. In other words, in the present embodiment, the resonance of the first
               intermediate member 12 (resonance at the lower natural frequency of the two natural
               frequencies) is a theoretical one that does not occur within a rotational-speed range
               in which the damper device 10 is used. As depicted in FIG. 7, the rotational speed
               corresponding to the lower natural frequency (the natural frequency of the first intermediate
               member 12) of the two natural frequencies of the damper device 10 is lower than the
               lockup rotational speed Nlup of the lockup clutch 8, and the rotational speed corresponding
               to the higher natural frequency (the natural frequency of the second intermediate
               member 14) of the two natural frequencies of the damper device 10 is higher than the
               lockup rotational speed Nlup. Accordingly, from the time when lockup is performed
               by the lockup clutch 8, one of a set of vibrations transmitted from the second outer
               springs SP12 to the driven member 16 and a set of vibrations transmitted from the
               second inner springs SP22 to the driven member 16 can cancel at least part of the
               other set of vibrations.
 
            [0069] When the damper device 10 is structured so as to satisfy Formula (19), the spring
               constants k
11, k
12, k
21, k
22, and k
m and the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 are preferably selected and set so that the frequency of the resonance (see the resonance
               point R1 in FIG. 7) that generates the antiresonance point A is a value that is lower
               than the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A and is as low as possible. For
               this reason, in the damper device 10 of the present embodiment, values for the spring
               constant k
11, k
12, k
21, k
22, and k
m are determined so as to satisfy the relation of k
11<k
m<k
12<k
22<k
21.
 
            [0070] Specifically, in the damper device 10, the spring constant k
m of the intermediate springs SPm and the spring constants k
11 and k
12 of the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 are determined to be small so
               that the natural frequency f
21 on the low rotational-speed side and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point
               A become lower. Furthermore, the spring constants k
21 and k
22 of the first and second inner springs SP21 and 22 are determined to be large so that
               the natural frequency f
21 on the low rotational-speed side becomes lower. This enables the natural frequency
               f
21 on the low rotational-speed side and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point
               A to become lower. Thus, the starting point of a rotational-speed band (frequency
               band) in which one of a set of vibrations transmitted from the second outer springs
               SP12 to the driven member 16 and a set of vibrations transmitted from the second inner
               springs SP22 to the driven member 16 cancels at least part of the other set of vibrations
               can be set on the lower rotational-speed side (lower frequency side). Furthermore,
               by setting this starting point of the rotational-speed band on the lower rotational-speed
               side, the rotational speed (frequency) at which the phase of vibrations transmitted
               from the second outer springs SP12 to the driven member 16 and the phase of vibrations
               transmitted from the second inner springs SP22 to the driven member 16 are shifted
               180° from each other can also be set on the lower rotational-speed side. Consequently,
               lockup can be allowed at a further lower rotational speed, and also the vibration
               damping performance in the low rotational-speed range can be further improved.
 
            [0071] In the damper device 10, as depicted in FIG. 7, after a damping peak of vibrations
               of the driven member 16 occurs near the antiresonance point A, as the rotational speed
               of the engine EG becomes higher, resonance (resonance of the second intermediate member
               14 in the present embodiment, see the resonance point R2 in FIG. 7) occurs at the
               higher natural frequency of the two natural frequencies, and accordingly the vibrations
               transmitted from the second outer springs SP12 to the driven member 16 and the vibrations
               transmitted from the second inner springs SP22 to the driven member 16 come into the
               same phase. In other words, in the damper device 10 of the present embodiment, during
               a period from the occurrence of the resonance (resonance of the first intermediate
               member 12) at the lower natural frequency of the two natural frequencies until the
               occurrence of the resonance (resonance of the second intermediate member 14) at the
               higher natural frequency of the two natural frequencies, one of a set of the vibrations
               transmitted from the second outer springs SP12 to the driven member 16 and a set of
               the vibrations transmitted from the second inner springs SP22 to the driven member
               16 cancels at least part of the other set of vibrations. Thus, the spring constants
               (combined spring constants) k
1, k
2, k
3, k
4, and k
5 and the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 are preferably selected and set so that the frequency of resonance that occurs on
               the higher rotational-speed side (higher frequency side) of the antiresonance point
               A becomes higher. This enables the resonance (at the resonance point R2) to occur
               on the high rotational-speed range side on which vibrations are less likely to become
               apparent, and thus the vibration damping performance of the damper device 10 in the
               low rotational-speed range can be further improved.
 
            [0072] Furthermore, in order to further improve the vibration damping performance near the
               lockup rotational speed Nlup in the damper device 10, it is necessary to separate
               the lockup rotational speed Nlup as apart as possible from the rotational speed of
               the engine EG corresponding to the resonance point R2. Thus, when the damper device
               10 is structured so as to satisfy Formula (19), the spring constants k
1, k
2, k
3, k
4, and k
5 and the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 are preferably selected and set so as to satisfy Nlup≤(120/n)·fa(=Nea). This enables
               the lockup clutch 8 to perform lockup while satisfactorily preventing vibrations from
               being transmitted to the input shaft IS of the transmission TM, and also enables the
               damper device 10 to excellently damp vibrations from the engine EG immediately after
               starting the lockup.
 
            [0073] As described above, by designing the damper device 10 based on the frequency fa at
               the antiresonance point A, the vibration damping performance of the damper device
               10 can be significantly improved. The research and analyses conducted by the inventors
               have confirmed that, when the lockup rotational speed Nlup is determined to be a value
               around 1000 rpm, for example, by structuring the damper device 10 such that 900 rpm≤(120/n)·fa≤1200
               rpm is satisfied, for example, very satisfactorily results for practical use can be
               obtained.
 
            [0074] As can be understood from Formulae (13) and (14), the two natural frequencies f
21 and f
22 of the damper device 10 are affected by both of the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 of the first and second intermediate members 12 and 14. Specifically, in the damper
               device 10, because the first intermediate member 12 and the second intermediate member
               14 are coupled to each other via the intermediate springs SPm, force from the intermediate
               springs SPm acts on both of the first and second intermediate members 12 and 14 (see
               the hollow arrows in FIG. 6), so that vibrations of the first intermediate member
               12 and vibrations of the second intermediate member 14 are coupled (both sets of vibrations
               affect each other). The vibrations of the first intermediate member 12 and the vibrations
               of the second intermediate member 14 are coupled in this manner, so that the natural
               frequencies f
21 and f
22 are affected by both of the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 of the first and second intermediate members 12 and 14. Thus, in the damper device
               10, it is possible to prevent the weights of the first and second intermediate members
               12 and 14, i.e., the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22, from increasing and to set the natural frequencies f
21 and f
22 and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A, so that resonance at the lower
               natural frequency of the two natural frequencies f
21 and f
22 can be easily shifted to the low rotational-speed side, i.e., into the non-lockup
               region, and accordingly cancellation of vibrations in the driven member 16 more satisfactorily
               occurs at a lower rotational speed of the drive member 11.
 
            [0075] Furthermore, in the damper device 10, because the two natural frequencies f
21 and f
22 are affected by both of the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 of the first and second intermediate members 12 and 14, adjusting the moments of
               inertia J
21 and J
22 of the first and second intermediate members 12 and 14, as depicted in FIG. 7, allows
               the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A to be a value substantially equivalent
               to the frequency fa' at the antiresonance point of the damper device of the comparative
               example, and also allows the natural frequency f
21 (at the resonance point R1) on the low rotational-speed side to be easily shifted
               to a lower rotational-speed side in the non-lockup region as compared to the damper
               device of the comparative example. This enables the damper device 10 to reduce the
               vibration level near the antiresonance point A as compared to the damper device (see
               the dashed line in FIG. 7) of the comparative example. In this manner, by reducing
               the natural frequency f
21 on the low rotational-speed side to reduce the vibration level near the antiresonance
               point A, the lockup rotational speed Nlup can be maintained to be lower even if the
               order of vibrations from an engine EG having a function of deactivating cylinders
               decreases when the engine EG starts operation with a reduced number of cylinders.
 
            [0076] The analyses conducted by the inventors have revealed that coupling the first and
               second intermediate members 12 and 14 to each other with the intermediate springs
               SPm to couple vibrations of both members facilitates mutual cancellation of vibrations
               transmitted to the driven member 16 through the first, second, and third torque transfer
               paths P1, P2, and P3, so that the actual vibration amplitude of the driven member
               16 near the antiresonance point A can be further reduced, and the difference in torque
               amplitude (torque fluctuations) between the second outer springs SP12 and the second
               inner springs SP22 can be reduced (torque amplitudes of both springs can be made closer
               to each other). Thus, in the damper device 10, lockup (coupling between the engine
               EG and the drive member 11) at a lower rotational speed can be allowed, and also the
               vibration damping performance in the low rotational-speed range in which vibrations
               from the engine EG tend to become large can be further improved.
 
            [0077] Herein, if k
5=0 in Formula (13), the natural frequency f
21' of the first intermediate member in the damper device of the comparative example
               in which the intermediate springs SPm are omitted is represented by Formula (20) below,
               and if k
5=0 in Formula (14), the natural frequency f
22' of the second intermediate member in the damper device of the comparative example
               is represented by Formula (21) below. As can be understood from Formulae (20) and
               (21), in the damper device of the comparative example, the natural frequency f
21' of the first intermediate member is not affected by the moment of inertia J
22 of the second intermediate member, and the natural frequency f
22' of the second intermediate member is not affected by the moment of inertia J
21 of the first intermediate member. From this point, it can be understood that, in
               the damper device 10, as compared to the damper device of the comparative example,
               flexibility in setting the natural frequencies f
21 and 
f22 of the first and second intermediate members 12 and 14 can be increased.
 
 
 
            [0078] If k
5=0 in Formula (6), the frequency fa' at the antiresonance point in the damper device
               of the comparative example is represented by Formula (22) below. Comparison between
               Formula (6) and Formula (22) indicates that when the spring constants k
1, k
2, k
3, and k
4 and the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 are the same in both Formulae, the frequency fa' at the antiresonance point in the
               damper device of the comparative example is smaller than the frequency fa at the antiresonance
               point A in the damper device 10. However, in the damper device 10, mainly by suitably
               selecting the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 of the first and second intermediate members 12 and 14, the frequency fa at the antiresonance
               point A can be easily set to a value substantially equivalent to the frequency fa'
               at the antiresonance point in the damper device of the comparative example (see the
               dashed line in FIG. 7).

 
            [0079] Furthermore, in the damper device 10 of the present embodiment, the first intermediate
               member 12 is structured such that the moment of inertia J
21 is larger than the moment of inertia J
22 of the second intermediate member 14, and is further coupled to the turbine runner
               5 so as to rotate integrally therewith. This makes it possible to further reduce the
               natural frequency f
21 on the low frequency side to further reduce the vibration level near the antiresonance
               point A. When the first intermediate member 12 is coupled to the turbine runner 5
               so as to rotate integrally therewith, the substantial moment of inertia J
21 (sum of the moments of inertia of the first intermediate member 12 and the turbine
               runner 5, for example) of the first intermediate member 12 can be increased. This
               makes it possible to further reduce the natural frequency f
21 on the low frequency side to set the resonance point of the first intermediate member
               12 on the lower rotational-speed side (lower frequency side).
 
            [0080] Although a basic design procedure for the damper device 10 on the assumption that
               hysteresis does not exist has been described above, as a matter of fact, it is extremely
               difficult to eliminate hysteresis in the damper device 10 including the springs SP11,
               SP12, SP21, SP22, and SPm. In the damper device 10 including the first and second
               torque transfer paths P1 and P2, the frequency at which the phase of vibrations transmitted
               from the second outer springs SP12 to the driven member 16 shifts 180° with respect
               to the phase of vibrations transmitted from the second inner springs SP22 to the driven
               member 16 would shift from a theoretical value toward the high frequency side (high
               rotational-speed side) due to hysteresis. If such a shift of phase reversal toward
               the high frequency side occurs, the frequency at which the vibration amplitude of
               the driven member 16 becomes minimum due to mutual cancellation between vibrations
               from the second outer springs SP12 and vibrations from the second inner springs SP22
               also shifts toward the high frequency side (high rotational-speed side). In view of
               this, the inventors examined the influence of hysteresis on the phase reversal of
               vibrations due to resonance at the natural frequency on the low frequency side in
               the damper device 10 and in the damper device of the comparative example.
 
            [0081] To begin with, the inventors performed a simulation on a model of the damper device
               of the comparative example in which the frequency fa' (see Formula (18)) at the theoretical
               antiresonance point is substantially matched to the frequency ftag of resonance due
               to vibrations of the entire damper device and the drive shaft of the vehicle (resonance
               due to vibrations generated between the drive member and the drive shaft), and verified
               the phase change of vibrations due to resonance at the natural frequency f
21' on the low frequency side. FIG. 14 illustrates a simulation result on the damper
               device of the comparative example indicated by a dashed line. As depicted in FIG.
               14, in the damper device of the comparative example, it was found that the frequency
               fr' at which the phases of vibrations in two torque transfer paths are shifted 180°
               from each other shifts toward the higher frequency side (higher rotational-speed side)
               of the frequency ftag (engine rotational speed corresponding thereto) of vibrations
               to be damped, as indicated by the dashed line in the drawing. Thus, it is considered
               that the damper device of the comparative example cannot satisfactorily damp the resonance
               due to vibrations of the entire damper device and the drive shaft of the vehicle.
 
            [0082] Furthermore, the inventors performed a simulation on a model of the damper device
               10 in which the frequency fa (see Formula (6)) at the theoretical antiresonance point
               A is substantially matched to the frequency ftag (the same value as in the case of
               the comparative example) of resonance due to vibrations of the entire damper device
               10 and the drive shaft of the vehicle, and verified the phase change of vibrations
               due to resonance at the natural frequency f
21 on the low frequency side in the damper device 10. FIG. 14 illustrates a simulation
               result on the damper device 10 indicated by a solid line. As can be seen from the
               simulation results in FIG. 14, in the damper device 10 structured as described above,
               the influence of hysteresis on the phase reversal of vibrations due to resonance at
               the natural frequency f
21 on the low frequency side can be satisfactorily reduced in comparison with the damper
               device of the comparative example.
 
            [0083] In other words, in the damper device 10 including the intermediate springs SPm, as
               described above, by adjusting the moments of inertia J
21 and J
22 of the first and second intermediate members 12 and 14, resonance at the natural
               frequency f
21 on the low frequency side, i.e., resonance of the first intermediate member 12, can
               be easily shifted toward a lower frequency side. In the damper device 10, the spring
               constants k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 of the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 and the first and second inner
               springs SP21 and SP22 satisfy the relations of k
11<k
21 and k
11/k
21≠k
12/k
22. This enables torque (part of the average torque) to be transmitted from the second
               intermediate member 14 to the first intermediate member 12 through the third torque
               transfer path P3 including the intermediate springs SPm, so that the torque sharing
               of the first outer springs SP11 can be reduced to reduce the spring constant k
11 (reduce the stiffness), and the friction force generated between the first outer
               springs SP11 and rotating elements can be reduced by weight reduction of the first
               outer springs SP11 associated with the reduced stiffness. Thus, hysteresis of the
               first outer springs SP11 can be reduced and, as indicated by the thin solid line in
               FIG. 14, the phase reversal of vibrations (vibrations in the first torque transfer
               path P1) transmitted from the second outer springs SP12 to the driven member 16 due
               to resonance at the natural frequency f
21, i.e., resonance of the first intermediate member 12, can be quickly completed (the
               slope of the phase change can be steeply inclined). Consequently, in the damper device
               10, the influence of hysteresis on the phase reversal can be reduced and, as indicated
               by the solid line in FIG. 14, the frequency fr at which the phase of vibrations transmitted
               from the second outer springs SP12 to the driven member 16 shifts 180° with respect
               to the phase of vibrations transmitted from the second inner springs SP22 to the driven
               member 16 can be shifted toward a lower frequency side (lower rotational-speed side)
               of the frequency ftag of vibrations to be damped.
 
            [0084] Furthermore, in the damper device 10, the spring constants k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 of the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 and the first and second inner
               springs SP21 and SP22 satisfy the relations of k
11/k
21<k
12/k
22 and k
11<k
12<k
22<k
21. When these relations hold, torque (part of the average torque) is transmitted from
               the second intermediate member 14 to the first intermediate member 12 through the
               third torque transfer path P3 including the intermediate springs SPm, and torque transmitted
               by the second outer springs SP12 between the first intermediate member 12 and the
               driven member 16 increases. Theoretically, the input torque T (sum of torque transmitted
               by the first outer springs SP11 and torque transmitted by the first inner springs
               SP21) to the drive member 11 is equal to the sum of torque transmitted by the second
               outer springs SP12 and torque transmitted by the second inner springs SP22. Thus,
               when the relations of k
11/k
21<k
12/k
22 and k
11<k
12<k
22<k
21 are satisfied, by reducing the torque sharing of the first outer springs SP11, the
               spring constant k
11 of the first outer springs SP11 can be reduced (the stiffness can be reduced) and,
               furthermore, the spring constant k
12 of the second outer springs SP12 can also be reduced (the stiffness can be reduced).
               Thus, in the damper device 10, the friction force generated between the first and
               second outer springs SP11 and SP12 and rotating elements, i.e., hysteresis, can be
               reduced by weight reduction of these springs associated with the reduced stiffness,
               and also resonance at the natural frequency f
21, i.e., resonance of the first intermediate member 12, can be shifted toward a lower
               frequency side. Consequently, as indicated by the thick solid line in FIG. 14, the
               shift of the frequency fr toward the high frequency side caused by the hysteresis
               can be more satisfactorily reduced.
 
            [0085] In the damper device 10, the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 are disposed
               so as to be aligned along the circumferential direction of the damper device 10, and
               the first and second inner springs SP21 and SP22 are disposed radially inward of the
               first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 so as to be aligned along this circumferential
               direction. Thus, it is possible to reduce the stiffnesses of the first outer springs
               SP11 and the second outer springs SP12 on the outer peripheral side while further
               shortening the axial length of the damper device 10, so that hysteresis of both springs
               can be reduced, and it is also possible to reduce centrifugal force that acts on the
               first and second inner springs SP21 and SP22 on the inner peripheral side, so that
               hysteresis of both springs can be reduced. Thus, in the damper device 10, hysteresis
               of the entire device can be satisfactorily reduced.
 
            [0086] FIG. 15 is an explanatory graph illustrating a relation among the torque sharing
               rate γ
1 of the first outer springs SP11 and the first inner springs SP21 to each of which
               torque is transmitted from the drive member 11, the torque sharing rate γ
2 of the second outer springs SP12 and the second inner springs SP22 each of which
               transmits torque to the driven member 16, and the vibration damping performance of
               the damper device 10. The inventors also conducted an analysis on the relation among
               the torque sharing rates γ
1 and γ
2 and the vibration damping performance of the damper device 10 when the input torque
               T to the drive member 11 is a predetermined value smaller than the torque T1 (when
               deformation is allowed in all of the springs SP11, SP12, SP21, SP22, and SPm). When
               torque transmitted by the first outer springs SP11 from the drive member 11 to the
               first intermediate member 12 is "T
11" and torque transmitted by the first inner springs SP21 from the drive member 11
               to the second intermediate member 14 is "T
21", the torque sharing rate γ
1 is expressed as y
1=T
11/(T
11+T
21). When torque transmitted by the second outer springs SP12 from the first intermediate
               member 12 to the driven member 16 is "T
12" and torque transmitted by the second inner springs SP22 from the second intermediate
               member 14 to the driven member 16 is "T
22", the torque sharing rate γ
2 is expressed as γ
2=T
12/(T
12+T
22). As described above, among the input torque T and the torques T
11, T
21, T
12, and T
21, theoretically, the relation of T=T
11+T
21=T
12+T
22, holds. In this analysis as well, the vibration damping performance of the damper
               device 10 was evaluated based on the vibration amplitude (torque fluctuations) of
               the driven member 16 in the same manner as in FIG. 7, for example.
 
            [0087] When torque (part of the average torque) is transmitted from the second intermediate
               member 14 to the first intermediate member 12 through the third torque transfer path
               P3 including the intermediate springs SPm as in the damper device 10, the torque sharing
               rates γ
1 and γ
2 are included in the area X that lies on the upper side of the line segment representing
               γ
1=γ
2 (excluding the line segment representing γ
1 =γ
2) in FIG. 15. This area X is an area in which the relation of γ
1<γ
2, i.e., T
11/(T
11+T
21)<T
12/(T
12+T
22) holds. The inventors determined through analysis a range in the area X in which
               it is possible to satisfactorily secure the vibration damping performance while preventing
               the coil diameters or the axial lengths of the springs SP11, SP12, SP21, SP22, and
               SPm from increasing, i.e., preventing the damper device 10 from increasing in size.
 
            [0088] As a result of the analysis, it was found that it is possible to satisfactorily secure
               the vibration damping performance while preventing the damper device 10 from increasing
               in size when the torque sharing rates γ
1 and γ
2 are included in the area Y indicated in FIG. 15. The area Y is an area in which the
               relations of γ
1<γ
2, 0.07≤γ
1=T
11/(T
11+T
21)≤0.28, and 0.12≤γ
2=T
12/(T
12+T
22)≤0.42 are satisfied. Furthermore, the analysis conducted by the inventors has revealed
               that the vibration damping performance of the damper device 10 can be further improved
               when the torque sharing rates γ
1 and γ
2 are included in the area Z inside the area Y indicated in FIG. 15. The area Z is
               an area in which the relations of γ
1<γ
2, 0.1≤γ
1=T
11/(T
11+T
21)≤0.25, and 0.13≤γ
2=T
12/(T
12+T
22)≤0.39 are substantially satisfied. Thus, the damper device 10 may be structured so
               as to satisfy γ
1<γ
2, 0.07≤γ
1=T
11/(T
11+T
21)≤0.28, and 0.12≤γ
2=T
12/(T
12+T
22)≤0.42, and more preferably to satisfy γ
1<γ
2, 0.1≤γ
1=T
11/(T
11+T
21)≤0.25, and 0.13≤γ
2=T
12/(T
12+T
22)≤0.39.
 
            [0089] When torque transmitted by the intermediate springs SPm between the first and second
               intermediate members 12 and 14 is "T
m", γ
2-γ
1=T
m/(T
11+T
21)=T
m/(T
12+T
22) holds. This value (γ
2-γ
1) represents the ratio of torque transmitted by the intermediate springs SPm to the
               input torque T (torque output from the driven member 16), and the analysis conducted
               by the inventors has revealed that satisfying 0<γ
2-γ
1≤0.35 makes it possible to satisfactorily secure the vibration damping performance
               while preventing the damper device 10 from increasing in size. Herein, because it
               could even be said that the relation of T
11+T
21=T
12+T
22 does not strictly hold, the damper device 10 may be structured so as to satisfy either
               one of 0<γ
2-γ
1≤0.35 and 0<T
m/(T
12+T
22)≤0.35.
 
            [0090] FIG. 16 is an explanatory graph illustrating a relation between the rotational speed
               of the engine EG and respective vibration amplitudes (torque fluctuations) in the
               driven members of the damper device 10 and the damper device of the comparative example
               in which the intermediate springs SPm are omitted, in consideration of hysteresis.
               In FIG. 16, the solid line represents a simulation result in which hysteresis of vibration
               amplitude (torque fluctuations) in the driven member of the damper device 10 is considered,
               and the dashed line represents a simulation result in which hysteresis of vibration
               amplitude (torque fluctuations) in the driven member of the damper device of the comparative
               example is considered. The model of the damper device 10 used for the simulation was
               constructed by determining various specifications such that the relation of k
11<k
m<k
12<k
22<k
21 and the relations of γ
1<γ
2, 0.07≤γ
1=T
11/(T
11+T
21)≤0.28, and 0.12≤γ
2=T
12/(T
12+T
22)≤0.42 are satisfied, and that the frequency fa at the theoretical antiresonance point
               A substantially matches the frequency ftag of resonance due to vibrations of the entire
               damper device 10 and the drive shaft of the vehicle. The model of the damper device
               of the comparative example used for the simulation was constructed by determining
               various specifications such that the frequency fa' at the theoretical antiresonance
               point substantially matches the frequency ftag (the same value as in the case of the
               damper device 10) of resonance due to vibrations of the entire damper device and the
               drive shaft of the vehicle.
 
            [0091] As depicted in FIG. 16, in the damper device 10, as compared to the damper device
               of the comparative example, resonance at the natural frequency f
21 on the low frequency side that generates the antiresonance point A, i.e., resonance
               of the first intermediate member 12, can be shifted toward a lower frequency side
               to be separated apart from the antiresonance point A. Thus, it can be understood that,
               in the damper device 10, the vibration damping performance can be significantly improved
               in comparison with the damper device of the comparative example by bringing the frequency
               fa at the antiresonance point A closer to the frequency ftag of vibrations (resonance)
               to be damped. Consequently, in the starting device 1 including the damper device 10,
               as compared to the damper device of the comparative example, the lockup rotational
               speed Nlup of the lockup clutch 8 can be set on a lower rotational-speed side (e.g.,
               a rotational speed lower than the rotational speed of the engine EG corresponding
               to the frequency ftag). In other words, by selecting the spring constants k
11, k
12, k
21, k
22, and k
m so as to satisfy k
11<k
m<k
12<k
22<k
21, torque can be suitably transmitted from the second intermediate member 14 to the
               first intermediate member 12 via the intermediate springs SPm, whereby the vibration
               damping performance of the damper device 10 can be significantly improved.
 
            [0092] In the damper device 10, although the spring constant K
21 of the first inner springs SP21 is larger than the spring constant K
22 of the second inner springs SP22 (k
22<k
21), the relation between these springs is not limited to this. Specifically, in order
               to simplify the design of the damper device 10, specifications of the first inner
               springs SP21 including the spring constant K
21, the coil diameter, and the axial length may be set to the same as specifications
               of the second inner springs SP22 (k
22=k
21) including the spring constant K
22, the coil diameter, and the axial length. In the damper device 10, the spring constants
               k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 of the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 and the first and second inner
               springs SP21 and SP22 may be selected so as to satisfy the relations of k
21<k
11 and k
11/k
21≠k
12/k
22, more specifically, the relation of k
21<k
22<k
12≤k
11. In other words, the intermediate springs SPm may transmit, to the second intermediate
               member 14, part of torque (part of the average torque) transmitted from the drive
               member 11 to the first intermediate member 12 via the first outer springs SP11. In
               this case, the damper device 10 may be structured such that the moment of inertia
               J
22 of the second intermediate member 14 is larger than the moment of inertia J
21 of the first intermediate member 12, and the second intermediate member 14 may be
               coupled to the turbine runner 5 so as to rotate integrally therewith.
 
            [0093] Furthermore, in the damper device 10, the spring constant k
m of the intermediate springs SPm may be set to a value smaller than the spring constants
               k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 of the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 and the first and second inner
               springs SP21 and SP22. In other words, as described above, the natural frequency f
21 on the low rotational-speed side (low frequency side) and the frequency fa at the
               antiresonance point A decrease as the combined spring constant k
5 of the intermediate springs SPm decreases (see FIG. 12). Thus, reducing the spring
               constant (stiffness) k
m of the intermediate springs SPm so that the spring constant k
m is smaller than the spring constants k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 can further reduce the natural frequency f
21 and the frequency fa. Even if such a structure is used, the starting point of a rotational-speed
               band in which one of a set of vibrations transmitted from the second outer springs
               SP12 to the driven member 16 and a set of vibrations transmitted from the second inner
               springs SP22 to the driven member 16 cancels part of the other set of vibrations can
               be set on the lower rotational-speed side. In addition, by setting this starting point
               of the rotational-speed band on the lower rotational-speed side, the rotational speed
               (frequency) at which the phase of vibrations transmitted from the second outer springs
               SP12 to the driven member 16 and the phase of vibrations transmitted from the second
               inner springs SP22 to the driven member 16 are shifted 180° from each other can also
               be set on the lower rotational-speed side (lower frequency side). In this case, the
               spring constants k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 of the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 and the first and second inner
               springs SP21 and SP22 may satisfy at least the relations of k
11≠k
21 and k
11/k
21≠k
12/k
22. In this case, the spring constants k
11, k
12, k
21 and k
22 may satisfy the relation of k
11/k
21<k
12/k
22 or k
12/k
22<k
11/k
21, or may satisfy the relation of k
11<k
12<k
22<k
21 or k
21<k
22<k
12≤k
11.
 
            [0094] In the damper device 10, the spring constant k
m of the intermediate springs SPm may be set larger than the spring constants k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 of the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 and the first and second inner
               springs SP21 and SP22. In other words, as described above, the difference (fa-f
21) between the natural frequency f
21 on the low rotational-speed side (low frequency side) and the frequency fa at the
               antiresonance point A increases as the combined spring constant k
5 of the intermediate springs SPm increases (see FIG. 12). Thus, setting the spring
               constant (stiffness) k
m of the intermediate springs SPm to be larger than the spring constants k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 can increase the difference (fa-f
21) between the natural frequency f
21 and the frequency fa. This makes it possible to widen the rotational-speed band in
               which one of a set of vibrations transmitted from the second outer springs SP12 to
               the driven member 16 and a set of vibrations transmitted from the second inner springs
               SP22 to the driven member 16 cancels at least part of the other set of vibrations,
               that is, a range in which the vibration level of the driven member 16 can be satisfactorily
               reduced.
 
            [0095] In this case, the spring constants k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 of the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 and the first and second inner
               springs SP21 and SP22 may be adjusted so that the natural frequency f
21 and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A become smaller and the difference
               (fa-f
21) between both frequencies becomes larger. Such a structure is advantageous when being
               used for a damper device in which the maximum input torque to the drive member 11
               is relatively small and the required equivalent stiffness keq is relatively low, in
               terms of ease in setting numerical values of the spring constants k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 to reduce the natural frequency f
21 and the frequency fa at the antiresonance point A. In this case also, the spring
               constants k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 of the first and second outer springs SP11 and SP12 and the first and second inner
               springs SP21 and SP22 may satisfy at least the relations of k
11≠k
21 and k
11/k
21≠k
12/k
22. In this case also, the spring constants k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 may satisfy the relation of k
11/k
21<k
12/k
22 or k
12/k
22<k
11/k
21, or may satisfy the relation of k
11<k
12<k
22<k
21 or k
21<k
22<k
12<k
11.
 
            [0096] Furthermore, in the damper device 10, the intermediate springs SPm may be arranged
               so as to be aligned with the first and second inner springs SP21 and SP22 along the
               circumferential direction. The damper device 10 may further include at least one torque
               transfer path that is provided parallel to the first and second torque transfer paths
               P1 and P2, for example, in addition to the first, second, and third torque transfer
               paths P1, P2, and P3. Furthermore, at least either one of the first and second torque
               transfer paths P1 and P2, for example, of the damper device 10 may be additionally
               provided with at least one set of an intermediate member and a spring (elastic body).
 
            [0097] In the starting device 1, when slip control for matching the actual slip speed (actual
               rotational speed difference) between the engine EG and the input shaft (drive member
               11) of the transmission TM to the target slip speed is performed, the frequency fa
               at the antiresonance point A may be matched to the frequency fs of a shudder that
               occurs when the slip control is performed, or may be set to a value near the frequency
               fs of the shudder. This enables further reduction in shudder occurring when the slip
               control is performed. When the moment of inertia of the lockup piston 80 and the drive
               member 11 that rotate integrally is "J
pd", the frequency fs of the shudder can be expressed as fs=1/2π·√(k
eq/J
pd) by using the moment of inertia J
pd and the equivalent stiffness k
eq of the damper device 10.
 
            [0098] As described in the foregoing, the damper device of the present disclosure is a damper
               device (10) having an input element (11) to which torque from an engine (EG) is transmitted
               and an output element (16). The damper device (10) includes: a first intermediate
               element (12); a second intermediate element (14); a first elastic body (SP11) that
               transmits torque between the input element (11) and the first intermediate element
               (12); a second elastic body (SP12) that transmits torque between the first intermediate
               element (12) and the output element (16); a third elastic body (SP21) that transmits
               torque between the input element (11) and the second intermediate element (14); a
               fourth elastic body (SP22) that transmits torque between the second intermediate element
               (14) and the output element (16); and a fifth elastic body (SPm) that transmits torque
               between the first intermediate element (12) and the second intermediate element (14).
 
            [0099] In the damper device of the present disclosure, under conditions in which all the
               first to fifth elastic bodies are allowed to deform, two natural frequencies can be
               set in the entire device. Research and analyses conducted by the inventors have revealed
               that the natural frequency of the damper device including the first to fifth elastic
               bodies decreases as the stiffness of the fifth elastic body decreases, and that a
               change in equivalent stiffness of the damper device with respect to a change in stiffness
               of the fifth elastic body is significantly smaller than changes in the equivalent
               stiffness with respect to changes in stiffnesses of the first to fourth elastic bodies.
               Thus, in the damper device of the present disclosure, by adjusting the stiffness of
               the fifth elastic body, it is possible to suitably set two natural frequencies of
               the entire device while suitably maintaining the equivalent stiffness of the damper
               device and preventing the weights (moments of inertia) of the first and second intermediate
               elements from increasing. Consequently, in the damper device of the present disclosure,
               the vibration damping performance can be satisfactorily improved.
 
            [0100] More specifically, in the damper device of the present disclosure, between the input
               element and the output element, the first intermediate element and the first and second
               elastic bodies form a first torque transfer path, and also the second intermediate
               element and the third and fourth elastic bodies form a second torque transfer path.
               The damper device of the present disclosure includes the fifth elastic body in addition
               to the first to fourth elastic bodies, and this fifth elastic body transmits torque
               between the first intermediate element and the second intermediate element. In this
               damper device, under conditions in which all the first to fifth elastic bodies are
               allowed to deform, two natural frequencies can be set in the entire device. When two
               natural frequencies are set in the entire device as described above, once resonance
               has occurred at a lower natural frequency of the two natural frequencies depending
               on the frequency of vibrations transmitted to the input element, the phase of vibrations
               transmitted from the second elastic body to the output element and the phase of vibrations
               transmitted from the fourth elastic body to the output element shift apart. Accordingly,
               as the rotational speed of the input element increases after the resonance has occurred
               at the lower natural frequency of the two natural frequencies, one of a set of vibrations
               transmitted from the second elastic body to the output element and a set of vibrations
               transmitted from the fourth elastic body to the output element cancels at least part
               of the other set of vibrations of the set of the vibrations transmitted from the second
               elastic body to the output element and the set of the vibrations transmitted from
               the fourth elastic body to the output element. The phase of the vibrations transmitted
               from the second elastic body to the output element and the phase of the vibrations
               transmitted from the fourth elastic body to the output element are shifted 180° from
               each other, whereby both sets of vibrations are mutually canceled, so that an antiresonance
               point where the vibration amplitude of the output element theoretically becomes zero
               can be set.
 
            [0101] Furthermore, research and analyses conducted by the inventors have revealed that
               the natural frequency on the low rotational-speed side (low frequency side) and the
               frequency at the antiresonance point decrease as the stiffness of the fifth elastic
               body decreases, and that the difference between the natural frequency on the low rotational-speed
               side and the frequency at the antiresonance point increases as the stiffness of the
               fifth elastic body increases. Thus, in the damper device of the present disclosure,
               by adjusting the stiffness of the fifth elastic body, it is possible to suitably set
               the natural frequency on the low rotational-speed side and the frequency at the antiresonance
               point while suitably maintaining the equivalent stiffness in accordance with the maximum
               input torque to the input element and preventing the weights (moments of inertia)
               of the first and second intermediate elements from increasing. In other words, by
               adjusting the stiffness of the fifth elastic body to reduce the natural frequency
               on the low rotational-speed side and the frequency at the antiresonance point, the
               starting point of a rotational-speed band (frequency band) in which one of a set of
               vibrations transmitted from the second elastic body to the output element and a set
               of vibrations transmitted from the fourth elastic body to the output element cancels
               at least part of the other set of vibrations can be set on the lower rotational-speed
               side. Accordingly, the rotational speed (frequency) at which the phase of the vibrations
               transmitted from the second elastic body to the output element and the phase of the
               vibrations transmitted from the fourth elastic body to the output element are shifted
               180° from each other can be set on the lower rotational-speed side. By adjusting the
               stiffness of the fifth elastic body to increase the difference between the natural
               frequency on the low rotational-speed side and the frequency at the antiresonance
               point, the rotational-speed band in which one of the set of the vibrations transmitted
               from the second elastic body to the output element and the set of the vibrations transmitted
               from the fourth elastic body to the output element cancels at least part of the other
               set of vibrations can be widened. Consequently, in the damper device of the present
               disclosure, the vibration damping performance can be satisfactorily improved by bringing
               the frequency at the antiresonance point closer to the frequency of vibrations (resonance)
               to be damped by the damper device.
 
            [0102] The natural frequency (f
21) of the first intermediate element (12) when torque is transmitted from the input
               element (11) to the output element (16) via all the first to fifth elastic bodies
               (SP11, SP12, SP21, SP22, SPm) may be different from the natural frequency (f
22) of the second intermediate element (14) when torque is transmitted from the input
               element (11) to the output element (16) via all the first to fifth elastic bodies
               (SP11, SP12, SP21, SP22, SPm). In other words, the damper device of the present disclosure
               may be structured such that, after resonance has occurred at the lower natural frequency
               of the natural frequencies of the first and second intermediate elements, one of a
               set of vibrations transmitted from the second elastic body to the output element and
               a set of vibrations transmitted from the fourth elastic body to the output element
               cancels at least part of the other set of vibrations. In addition, in the damper device
               of the present disclosure, because the first intermediate element and the second intermediate
               element are coupled to each other via the fifth elastic body, vibrations of the first
               intermediate element and the vibrations of the second intermediate element are coupled
               (both sets of vibrations affect each other). Accordingly, the natural frequencies
               of the first and second intermediate elements are each affected by both of the moments
               of inertia of the first and second intermediate elements, and thus it is possible
               to easily shift the resonance at the lower natural frequency of the natural frequencies
               of the first and second intermediate elements toward the lower rotational-speed side
               while preventing the weights (moments of inertia) of the first and second intermediate
               elements from increasing. Herein, the resonance at the lower natural frequency of
               the natural frequencies of the first and second intermediate elements may be a hypothetical
               one that does not occur within a rotational-speed range in which the damper device
               is used.
 
            [0103] As described above, when torque is transmitted from the input element (11) to the
               output element (16) via all the first to fifth elastic bodies (SP11, SP12, SP21, SP22,
               SPm), one of a set of vibrations transmitted from the second elastic body (SP12) to
               the output element (16) and a set of vibrations transmitted from the fourth elastic
               body (SP22) to the output element (16) may cancel at least part of the other set of
               vibrations.
 
            [0104] Furthermore, the fifth elastic body (SPm) may transmit, to the first intermediate
               element (12) or the second intermediate element (11), part of torque transmitted from
               the input element (11) to the second intermediate element (14) via the third elastic
               body (SP21) or part of torque transmitted from the input element (11) to the first
               intermediate element (12) via the first elastic body (SP11). This can reduce the torque
               sharing of the first or third elastic body, thereby reducing the stiffness of the
               first or third elastic body. Thus, friction force generated between the first or third
               elastic body and rotating elements, i.e., hysteresis, can be reduced, and the phase
               reversal of vibrations transmitted from the second or fourth elastic body to the output
               element due to the resonance at the lower natural frequency of the two natural frequencies
               can be quickly completed. Consequently, the shift, toward the high frequency side
               due to hysteresis, of the frequency at which the phase of vibrations transmitted from
               the second elastic body to the output element and the phase of vibrations transmitted
               from the fourth elastic body to the output element are shifted 180° from each other
               can be reduced, whereby the vibration damping performance of the damper device can
               be satisfactorily improved.
 
            [0105] When the stiffness of the first elastic body (SP11) is "k
11", the stiffness of the second elastic body (SP12) is "k
12", the stiffness of the third elastic body (SP21) is "k
21", and the stiffness of the fourth elastic body (SP22) is "k
22", the stiffnesses k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 of the first to fourth elastic bodies may be selected so as to satisfy k
11≠k
21 and k
11/k
21≠k
12/k
22. This enables torque to be transmitted between the input element and the output element
               through, in addition to the first and second torque transfer paths, a third torque
               transfer path including the first elastic body, the first intermediate element, the
               fifth elastic body, the second intermediate element, and the fourth elastic body,
               or the third elastic body, the second intermediate element, the fifth elastic body,
               the first intermediate element, and the second elastic body, when all the first to
               fifth elastic bodies are allowed to deform.
 
            [0106] Furthermore, the stiffnesses k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 of the first to fourth elastic bodies (SP11, SP12, SP21, SP22) may be selected so
               as to satisfy k
11/k
21<k
12/k
22. This enables torque to be transmitted between the input element and the output element
               through, in addition to the first and second torque transfer paths, the third torque
               transfer path including the third elastic body, the second intermediate element, the
               fifth elastic body, the first intermediate element, and the third elastic body.
 
            [0107] The stiffnesses k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 of the first to fourth elastic bodies (SP11, SP12, SP21, SP22) may be selected so
               as to satisfy k
11<k
12<k
22≤k
21. In the damper device structured in this manner, when all the first to fifth elastic
               bodies are allowed to deform, torque is transmitted between the input element and
               the output element through, in addition to the first and second torque transfer paths,
               the third torque transfer path including the third elastic body, the second intermediate
               element, the fifth elastic body, the first intermediate element, and the second elastic
               body. By selecting the stiffnesses k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 so as to satisfy k
11<k
12<k
22≤k
21, the stiffness k
11 of the first elastic body can be reduced and, furthermore, the stiffness k
12 of the second elastic body can also be reduced. Accordingly, friction force generated
               between the first and second elastic bodies and the rotating elements, i.e., hysteresis,
               can be reduced, and also resonance (resonance of the first intermediate element) at
               the lower natural frequency of the two natural frequencies can be shifted toward a
               lower frequency side. Consequently, the shift, toward the high frequency side due
               to hysteresis, of the frequency at which the phase of vibrations transmitted from
               the second elastic body to the output element shifts 180° with respect to the phase
               of vibrations transmitted from the fourth elastic body to the output element can be
               more satisfactorily reduced. Alternatively, the stiffnesses k
11, k
12, k
21 and k
22 of the first to fourth elastic bodies may be selected so as to satisfy k
21<k
11 and k
11/k
21≠k
12/k
22, more specifically, k
21<k
22<k
12≤k
11. In other words, the relation of both k
11≠k
21 and k
11/k
21#k
12/k
22 is based on both of the relation of k
11<k
12<k
22≤k
21 and the relation of k
21<k
22<k
12≤k
11.
 
            [0108] Furthermore, when the stiffness of the fifth elastic body (SPm) is "k
m", the stiffnesses k
11, k
12, k
21, k
22 and k
m of the first to fifth elastic bodies may be selected so as to satisfy k
11<k
m<k
12<k
22≤k
21. This enables torque to be suitably transmitted from the second intermediate element
               to the first intermediate element via the fifth elastic body, whereby the vibration
               damping performance of the damper device can be significantly improved.
 
            [0109] The stiffness (k
m) of the fifth elastic body (SPm) may be higher than the stiffnesses k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 of the first to fourth elastic bodies (SP11, SP12, SP21, SP22). In other words, the
               difference between the natural frequency on the low rotational-speed side and the
               frequency at the antiresonance point increases as the stiffness of the fifth elastic
               body increases as described above. Thus, setting the stiffness of the fifth elastic
               body to be higher than the stiffnesses of the first to fourth elastic bodies can increase
               the difference between the natural frequency on the low rotational-speed side and
               the frequency at the antiresonance point. This makes it possible to widen the rotational-speed
               band in which one of a set of vibrations transmitted from the second elastic body
               to the output element and a set of vibrations transmitted from the fourth elastic
               body to the output element cancels at least part of the other set of vibrations, that
               is, a range in which the vibration level of the output element can be satisfactorily
               reduced.
 
            [0110] Furthermore, the stiffness (k
m) of the fifth elastic body (SPm) may be lower than the stiffnesses k
11, k
12, k
21, and k
22 of the first to fourth elastic bodies (SP11, SP12, SP21, SP22). In other words, the
               natural frequency on the low rotational-speed side (low frequency side) and the frequency
               at the antiresonance point decrease as the stiffness of the fifth elastic body decreases
               as described above. Thus, setting the stiffness of the fifth elastic body to be lower
               than the stiffnesses of the first to fourth elastic bodies enables the natural frequency
               on the low rotational-speed side and the frequency at the antiresonance point to become
               lower. Accordingly, the starting point of the rotational-speed band (frequency band)
               in which one of a set of vibrations transmitted from the second elastic body to the
               output element and a set of vibrations transmitted from the fourth elastic body to
               the output element cancels at least part of the other set of vibrations can be set
               on the lower rotational-speed side, so that the rotational speed (frequency) at which
               the phases of both sets of vibrations are shifted 180° from each other can be set
               on the lower rotational-speed side.
 
            [0111] The moment of inertia of the first intermediate element (12) may be larger than the
               moment of inertia of the second intermediate element (14). This enables the lower
               natural frequency of two natural frequencies of the damper device to become lower,
               so that the vibration level near the antiresonance point can be further reduced.
 
            [0112] Furthermore, the first intermediate element (12) may be coupled to a turbine runner
               (5) that constitutes a fluid transmission apparatus along with a pump impeller (4)
               so as to rotate together therewith. This can increase the substantial moment of inertia
               (sum of the moments of inertia) of the first intermediate element, and thus the lower
               natural frequency of the two natural frequencies of the damper device can be further
               reduced.
 
            [0113] The damper device (10) may be structured such that, when torque transmitted by the
               first elastic body (SP11) is "T
11", torque transmitted by the second elastic body (SP12) is "T
12", torque transmitted by the third elastic body (SP21) is "T
21", and torque transmitted by the fourth elastic body (SP22) is "T
22", T
11/(T
11+T
21)<T
12/(T
12+T
22), 0.07≤T
11/(T
11+T
21)≤0.28, and 0.12≤T
12/(T
12+T
22)≤0.42 are satisfied. This makes it possible to satisfactorily secure the vibration
               damping performance while preventing the damper device from increasing in size.
 
            [0114] Furthermore, the damper device (10) may be structured such that, when torque transmitted
               by the fifth elastic body (SPm) is "T
m", at least either one of 0<T
m/(T
11+T
21)≤0.35 and 0<T
m/(T
12+T
22)≤0.35 is satisfied.
 
            [0115] The spring constants (combined spring constant) k
1, k
2, k
3, k
4, and k
5 of the first, second, third, fourth, and fifth elastic bodies (SP11, SP12, SP21,
               SP22, SPm) and the moments of inertia (J
21, J
22) of the first and second intermediate elements (12, 14) may be determined based on
               the frequency at the antiresonance point where the vibration amplitude of the output
               element (16) becomes zero. This makes it possible to excellently damp vibrations transmitted
               to the input element.
 
            [0116] Furthermore, the spring constants (combined spring constant) k
1, k
2, k
3, k
4, and k
5 of the first, second, third, fourth, and fifth elastic bodies (SP11, SP12, SP21,
               SP22, SPm) and the moments of inertia (J
21, J
22) of the first and second intermediate elements (12, 14) may be determined based on
               the frequency at the antiresonance point and the number of cylinders (n) of the engine
               (EG). This makes it possible to improve the vibration damping performance of the damper
               device in the low rotational-speed range in which vibrations from the engine tend
               to become large.
 
            [0117] The damper device (10) may be structured such that, when the frequency at the antiresonance
               point where the vibration amplitude of the output element (16) becomes zero is "fa"
               and the number of cylinders of the engine (EG) is "n", 500 rpm≤(120/n)·fa≤1500 rpm
               is satisfied. In this manner, by setting the antiresonance point at which the vibration
               amplitude of the output element can be further reduced within the low rotational-speed
               range of 500 rpm to 1500 rpm, coupling between the engine and the input element at
               a lower rotational speed can be allowed, and also the vibration damping performance
               of the damper device in the low rotational-speed range in which vibrations from the
               engine tend to become large can be further improved. By structuring the damper device
               so that the frequency of resonance that generates the antiresonance point (resonance
               that has to be generated so as to form the antiresonance point) is a value that is
               lower than the frequency at the antiresonance point and is as low as possible, the
               frequency at the antiresonance point can be further reduced, and coupling between
               the engine and the input element can be allowed at a further lower rotational speed.
               By structuring the damper device so that the frequency of resonance that occurs on
               the higher rotational-speed side (higher frequency side) of the antiresonance point
               becomes higher, the resonance can be caused to occur on the high rotational-speed
               range side on which vibrations are less likely to become apparent, whereby the vibration
               damping performance of the damper device in the low rotational-speed range can be
               further improved.
 
            [0118] Furthermore, the damper device (10) may be structured such that, when the lockup
               rotational speed of a lockup clutch (8) that couples the engine (EG) to the input
               element (11) is "Nlup", Nlup≤(120/n)·fa is satisfied. This enables the damper device
               to excellently damp vibrations from the engine when the lockup clutch couples the
               engine to the input element and immediately after starting the coupling.
 
            [0119] The damper device (10) may be structured so as to satisfy 900 rpm≤(120/n)·fa≤1200
               rpm.
 
            [0120] Furthermore, the frequency fa at the antiresonance point may be represented by Formula
               (6) above.
 
            [0121] The damper device (10) may be structured such that deformation of the first to fifth
               elastic bodies (SP11, SP12, SP21, SP22, SPm) is not restricted until input torque
               (T) transmitted to the input element becomes equal to or greater than a predetermined
               threshold (T1). This makes it possible to satisfactorily improve the vibration damping
               performance of the damper device when the input torque transmitted to the input element
               is relatively small and the rotational speed of the input element is low.
 
            [0122] Furthermore, the damper device (10) may further include a first stopper (21) that
               restricts relative rotation between the first intermediate element (12) and the output
               element (16); a second stopper (22) that restricts relative rotation between the second
               intermediate element (14) and the output element (16); and a third stopper (23) that
               restricts relative rotation between the input element (11) and the output element
               (16). The first and second stoppers (21, 22) may restrict relative rotation between
               the first or second intermediate element (12, 14) and the output element (16) when
               the input torque (T) reaches the threshold (T1), and the third stopper (23) may restrict
               relative rotation between the input element (11) and the output element (16) when
               the input torque (T) reaches a second threshold (T2) that is higher than the threshold
               (T1). This enables the damper device to have damping characteristics in two stages.
 
            [0123] The first, second, third, and fourth elastic bodies (SP11, SP12, SP21, SP22) may
               be coil springs, and the coil springs may be straight coil springs or may be arcuate
               coil springs.
 
            [0124] Furthermore, the fifth elastic body (SPm) may be a coil spring, and the coil spring
               may be a straight coil spring or may be an arcuate coil spring.
 
            [0125] The input element (11) may have a contact portion (111c) being in contact with an
               end of the first elastic body (SP11) and contact portions (112c, 113c) being in contact
               with an end of the third elastic body (SP21). The output element (16) may have a contact
               portion (16co) being in contact with an end of the second elastic body (SP12) and
               a contact portion (16ci) being in contact with an end of the fourth elastic body (SP22).
               The first intermediate element (12) may have contact portions (121c, 122c) being in
               contact with an end of the first elastic body, contact portions (121c, 122c) being
               in contact with an end of the second elastic body (SP12), and contact portions (122d)
               being in contact with ends of the fifth elastic body (SPm). The second intermediate
               element (14) may have a contact portion (14c) being in contact with an end of the
               third elastic body (SP21), a contact portion (14c) being in contact with an end of
               the fourth elastic body, and contact portions (14d) being in contact with the ends
               of the fifth elastic body (SPm).
 
            [0126] Furthermore, the output element (16) is operatively (directly or indirectly) coupled
               to an input shaft (IS) of a transmission (TM), and the input element (11) may be operatively
               (directly or indirectly) coupled to an output shaft of an internal combustion engine.
 
            [0127] To the input element (11), torque from the engine (EG) may be transmitted via the
               lockup clutch (8). The lockup rotational speed (Nlup) of the lockup clutch (8) may
               be higher than a rotational speed corresponding to a lower natural frequency of the
               natural frequencies (f
21, f
22) of the first and second intermediate elements (12, 14) when torque is transmitted
               from the input element (11) to the output element (16) via all the first to fifth
               elastic bodies (SP11, SP12, SP21, SP22, SPm), and may be lower than a rotational speed
               corresponding to the higher natural frequency of the natural frequencies. In this
               manner, by causing the rotational speed corresponding to the lower natural frequency
               of the natural frequencies of the first and second intermediate elements to be included
               in the non-lockup region of the lockup clutch, from the time when lockup is performed
               by the lockup clutch, one of a set of vibrations transmitted from the second elastic
               body to the output element and a set of vibrations transmitted from the fourth elastic
               body to the output element can cancel at least part of the other set of vibrations.
 
            [0128] Furthermore, the first and second elastic bodies (SP11, SP12) may be disposed so
               as to be aligned along the circumferential direction of the damper device (10), and
               the third and fourth elastic bodies (SP21, SP22) may be disposed radially inward of
               the first and second elastic bodies (SP11, SP12) so as to be aligned along the circumferential
               direction. This makes it possible to reduce the stiffnesses of the first elastic body
               and the second elastic body on the outer peripheral side while further shortening
               the axial length of the damper device, so that hysteresis of the first and second
               elastic bodies can be reduced, and also centrifugal force that acts on the third and
               fourth elastic bodies on the inner peripheral side can be reduced to reduce hysteresis
               of the third and fourth elastic bodies. Thus, in the damper device, hysteresis of
               the entire device can be satisfactorily reduced. The fifth elastic body (SPm) may
               be disposed so as to be aligned with the first and second elastic bodies (SP11, SP12)
               along the circumferential direction. This enables strokes of the first, second, and
               fifth elastic bodies to be suitably secured.
 
            [0129] The invention of the present disclosure is not limited to the embodiment described
               above and, needless to say, various changes may be made within the scope of the present
               disclosure. Furthermore, the embodiment described above is merely one specific mode
               of the invention described only in the "SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION" section, and does
               not limit the elements of the invention described in the "SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION"
               section.
 
            INDUSTRIAL APPLICABILITY
[0130] The invention of the present disclosure is applicable to the manufacturing field,
               for example, of damper devices.